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Unread 10-19-2008, 09:15 AM   #1
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I finally got to try some rocks!!!

and it was awesome!!! I pretty much slid my way over everything....only got stuck once....both axles where hung up and i had to winch off....I deff need to invest in some skids....I slammed my t case HARD a couple times and i was about ready to rip off the back bumper...seems like every drop off you go down the back end catchs on and jars your teeth....Im going to try to make a more low profile one and cut my rear rockers pieces off (they are rustys anyways). overall it was fun...I have alot of leaking fluids to fix now along with a broken tail light (those trees jump right out in front of you)....next time i will be more prepared...

ok...I didnt take one pic the whole trip but i was the only one brave/stupid enough to try the hard stuff so it turns out other people took pics for me
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thats from my tire i guess


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Unread 10-19-2008, 10:01 AM   #3
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Awesome man.

Gotta love crawlin.
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Unread 10-19-2008, 10:33 AM   #4
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now get rid of those gay *** boggers
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Unread 10-19-2008, 10:37 AM   #5
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accually they did GREAT on rocks.....But they are about wore out....Next tire will probally be some 36-37 irocs as wide as i can get them....
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Unread 10-19-2008, 10:48 AM   #6
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now get rid of those gay *** boggers
What's wrong with boggers?
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Oh i should also say, this trail run made me think maybe i dont need a v8....I have been planning a v8 swap for this winter but i had no power problems all day....Most of the time we are wide open though mud holes overheating everything and my jeep just seems gutless....Rocks seem to be much easyier on your rig (if it is armored right) I didnt overheat all day....never heated up the trans to where it was slipping and stuff. im begining to think 4.7 stroker with a rebuilt trans. (ive about killed mine)

to be honest....I would go crawl rocks anyday over mud now....Most of then time when we get back from a trail ride i know i have at least 3 days of straigh washing on my jeep to get it close to clean...then there is still mud everywhere....Only mud i hit yesterday were puddles, they just sprayed up the sides because the tires stick out so much....One hit with the power washer and it will be shinny clean agian.


side note: what is the advantage to a lower t case gear in the rocks? Like the rubi cases....all teh hardcore rock guys all want 4 to 1s or atlas and stuff and i dont see how that would help? I mean of course you go slow on rocks but why do you need something lower then a 231 (isnt it like 2.6 to 1 or something?)
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What's wrong with boggers?
Offroad....I have yet to find something they didnt do great on...
sand: at 15 inches wide i let them down to 4psi and drove everywhere i wanted
mud: there is NO better tire, end of story
rock: i never had a point where i though "if i had a diff tire i could have made that" but then agian i never had anything with just MTs on the rocks...

Now road is a diff story...

They dont balance....you can try all you want...they dont...Mine have 2 cups off airsoft pelets in each one and it helps but not much
They wear FAST on the road....
they are loud...Like "wheres my ear plugs loud"

part of the reason mine dont go down the road well is because they are 15 inches wide...I get alot of wandering when driving...but i only drive it on the weekends and once and a while to work so i dont worry about it...
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to be honest....I would go crawl rocks anyday over mud now....


side note: what is the advantage to a lower t case gear in the rocks? Like the rubi cases....all teh hardcore rock guys all want 4 to 1s or atlas and stuff and i dont see how that would help? I mean of course you go slow on rocks but why do you need something lower then a 231 (isnt it like 2.6 to 1 or something?)
we all told you rocks are more fun. haha

and the lower gear ratio in the t-case will increase the torque more in 4-lo. just helps with extreme situations more, like steep hills and really low traction. isnt completely necessary but is nice. stock is 2.72:1
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Unread 10-19-2008, 02:35 PM   #10
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Awesome pics man. I'm going to do some good rocks for the first time in 3 weeks. Can't wait, getting some rails and a t-case skid to make sure I don't destroy anything.
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What's wrong with boggers?
they are way over rated! and too expensive!
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So did you try any tough stuff? J/K!

From what I've seen in our club, Boggers work pretty well on most surfaces--they can slide sideways, though, if you're on a slick trail/rocks.

I think a 4:1 is more of a big deal if your drivng a standard. It WOULD allow you to crawl over big rocks w/o having to ride the brakes when coming down off them (at least I have to with my modest lift).

I highly recommend TnT Custom Bellypan. I have that, along with HD diff covers, JKS LCA mini skids, a gas tank skid and rock rails and there really isn't much to worry about in the rocks. Hacking off the lower rear quarter panels also gives you one less area to worry about.
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Unread 10-19-2008, 07:43 PM   #13
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To be honest, i have no clue if what i was driving over was hard....I know no one else in our club would try it but thats not saying much....it was my first time, i didnt really see anyone else playing on the big rocks i was so i figured it was a little more difficult but i pretty much just slid over eveything...Only got hung up once...Had to winch off....

as far as the 4-1 cases....i have a auto so maybe that is why i didnt see the big need for it...That makes a little more sence now...I bet This kinda stuff would suck with a manual tranny....


I cant really do i full belly skid because of my longarms....I mean i could but i would have to modify it and at that point it wouldnt be worth it...I could just make one myself...

I didnt really hit the egine/tranny much...with the longarms and front DS there it pretty much kept the front end out of the rocks....Main thing i need it cover is the tcase....I smashed that BAD a couple times....I think im going to try to make one....a guy in our club has a (bruce B)or something like that) one and i was looking at that....It doesnt look to hard to make....Ill probally see if he will snap some pics off it...
I also need diff covers BAD....I smashed the bottoms of them both and the cover kinda rolled up and now they both are leaking...ill probally order a couple from great lake offroad there stuff seems to be pretty good.....Then ill see about making some mini skids for the control arms....One good thing is that NOTHING hangs below the axles, all the shock mounts and everything have been moved up....there isnt even any u bolts! lol

Oh and im deff lossing the hitch and cutting offf the rear quarters.....I think im going to put a small fuel cell in the hatch area....that should free up some room im already sick of draging the back end over everything
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Unread 10-20-2008, 02:05 PM   #14
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Nice looking covers--ala Ruff Stuff--ugly but strong--I'd get the extra steel for the front.

Didn't realize you had long arms--TnT uses the belly pan to as a mount for their long arm setup, but I'm sure you're is different. No reason you can't make your own extended xfer case skid.

I don't know that I've really hit my gas tank skid much, nor my rear hitch--I do hit my receiver-mounted shackle quite often.

What are you running for steering? That is pretty sucseptible to damage in the rocks as well.
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Tires/Wheels: 33x10.5x15 BFG Mud Terrains on Alcoas.
Misc: Garvin Wilderness rack, Safari Snorkel, Redline Tuning hood lifts.
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Unread 10-20-2008, 02:41 PM   #15
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I wanted tnt longarms but 1) i couldnt get them quick enough (i ordered them on a MON and needed them by thursday lol I got clayton arms for fullsizexjgear) 2) they wher alot more money then....with there new sale price, i feel stupid not to have goten them

anyways, im running JCR 1 ton steering UTK it was another time issue....I needed more parts to run over the knuckle and i had a trip planed that i needed to make....I plan on switching it to OTK this winter....
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