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Old 07-19-2009, 07:41 PM   #1
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How Many of You Guys Wave?

How many of you guys wave to other Jeeps? I wave to XJs TJs LJs YJs CJs some JKs and ay other Lifted Jeep. Not many people wave back, although I am still pretty stock. What do you guys do?

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Old 07-19-2009, 07:44 PM   #2
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I'll wave twice.....if both times i don't get a wave back...then i start "The Bird" from then on till they see me out and ask me why i'm flipping the bird..then i will explain my Jeep wave rule...and they always wave after that.
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Old 07-19-2009, 07:55 PM   #3
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I wave at all jeeps that are modified and any stock jeep who looks or waves at me. It's funny but when in my 18 wheeler I forget and wave at jeeps and they usually look at me like I'm crazy.
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Old 07-19-2009, 07:59 PM   #4
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I wave to modified Jeeps only. The stockers are usually soccer moms and there are some stock cherokees in my area that are used as some stupid kids beater cars. So basically I only wave to lifted rigs, they normally wave back because they see that my Jeep is modified as well and they get the Jeep wave. Some people with lifted rigs dont wave and look funny at me and those are either the old guys that don't use the internet or the guy who bought it lifted to be cool and has no idea what's going on.
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Old 07-19-2009, 08:01 PM   #5
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I wave only at lifted Jeeps.
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Old 07-19-2009, 08:05 PM   #6
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I'll wave basicly wave at modified jeeps or anybody who waves at me.
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Old 07-19-2009, 08:09 PM   #7
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i wave at all jeeps that are lifted or look tight. but i feel really retarded when i have someone in the passenger seat and i wave to a jeep and get nothing back. im about to give up. haha
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Old 07-19-2009, 08:14 PM   #8
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I wave to all Wranglers and to some JK's.
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Old 07-19-2009, 08:16 PM   #9
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i wave at all jeeps that are lifted or look tight. but i feel really retarded when i have someone in the passenger seat and i wave to a jeep and get nothing back. im about to give up. haha
I hate that. Then the passengers always laughs and them im like 'well they dont get it theyre not a real jeeper lol'.
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Old 07-19-2009, 08:20 PM   #10
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TJ's and JK's, if I'm not busy in traffic shifting and steering!
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Old 07-19-2009, 08:22 PM   #11
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I wave to all Wranglers, including JK's (those are wranglers too ). Most wave back, male or female. I have yet to see someone in a Liberty or Cherokee wave, but if they do, I'll wave to them as well.
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Old 07-19-2009, 08:25 PM   #12
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I waive at any jeep! I forget and do it from the mini van from time to time and get weird looks lol
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Old 07-19-2009, 08:34 PM   #13
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I wave to pretty much every one never hurts to be nice if some looks at your car.
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Old 07-19-2009, 08:55 PM   #14
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Yeah I get turned down ALL the time. And my girlfriend makes fun of me. Once I was like "WOW! Just support my hobby!" and she has been semi supportive since haha. Getting me some Jeep garb for my bday. But when I am alone and wave and see that its an old person or soccer mom or they just dont wave, I laugh to myself in my Jeep haha
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Old 07-19-2009, 09:15 PM   #15
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Jeep Wave Rules

The Jeep Wave Rules



Warning
Owning, registering, insuring, or driving a Jeep implies knowledge of and intent to abide by the following rules. Failure to obey the rules may result in your being ignored by other Jeep owners as you sit along the side of the road next to your stalled vehicle in a blizzard surrounded by Saturns, Yugos, and Hyundais.


Definition of the Jeep wave: An honor bestowed upon those drivers with superior intelligence, taste, class, and discompfort tolerance to own the ultimate vehicle- the JEEP. Generally consists of vigourous side to side motion of one or both hands, but may be modified to suit circumstances and locally accepted etiqeutte.

Examples of commonly accepted modifications:

Top off: One handed wave above windshield or outside body tub .
Top off during blizzard: Shiver and nod, hands may remain frozen to steering wheel .
Southern/rural locations: Raise fingers from steering wheel, nod.

It's not what you buy, it's what you build and what you do with it.

In keeping with this cardinal rule of Jeeping, categories have been established to account for each part of the equation.

These categories are:

The Jeep Waving Hierarchy: Based on the vehicle itself. Takes into account the nastalgia factor, the discomfort tolerance quotient, and the amount of owner dedication required to maintain the steed.
The Moifying Sub-categories: Based on what you do with your JEEP.
Equipmant Adjustments: What you build.

General Rules

1. All Jeepers are responsible for upholding the tradition of the Wave. Upon contact with a higher scoring Jeep, a Jeeper is
required to initiate the Wave, and continue the Wave until:
a. The Wave is returned
b. The Wave is blatantly disregarded
c. The higher scoring vehicle has passed by and is out of sight

2. All Jeepers are required to return the Wave, unless the initiating vehicle clearly has a negative (below 0) score.

3. All Jeepers are encouraged, but not required, to return the Wave to negative balance vehicles, and take any opportunity presented to guide and mentor them about their responsibilities to their Jeeps in the hopes that they can correct the error of their ways.

4. When unsure of status or wave requirements of a particular encounter, or unable to completely assess the other Jeep's score quickly enough to ensure that the proper Jeep Wave Etiquette rules are followed, immediately initiate wave. It is the spirit of waving that is most important so when in doubt: Just Wave!

The Jeep Waving Hierarchy (JWH)



Category A - Pre-CJ (Willys/Kaiser/MB/etc): 30
Category B - Pre-AMC CJ: 27
Category C - CJ: 25
Category D - Commando: 20
Category E - YJ: 16
Category F - TJ: 15
Category G - Cherokee, Wagoneer: 10
Category H - All other Jeeps: 5
Category I - All other 4WD vehicles EXCEPT yuppie Explorers: 0
Category J - All other vehicles: -5



The Modifying Sub-Categories (MSCs):



MSC Guidelines:

1. MSCs must be considered during all Jeep encounters, and wave patterns must be adjusted accordingly.

2. MSC 5 is the median - the accepted norm.

3. MSCs from 1 through 4 will increase score as listed.

4. MSCs 6 and 7 will decrease score as listed.

MSC 1: Top off; vehicle, driver, and all occupants covered with mud: +30
MSC 2: Top partially off; vehicle and some occupants covered with Mud: +20
MSC 3: Top on; vehicle covered with mud: +10
MSC 4: Top off during snow, sleet, hail, or heavy rain: +5
MSC 5: Somewhat dirty: 0
MSC 6: Obviously recently washed, but immediately re-muddied a little: -10
MSC 7: Clean, dry, unscratched, untested: -30



Equipment Adjustments (EAs)



Consideration must be given to the current mechanical condition of the vehicle, including all modifications for trailworthiness, comfort, appearance, and spouse-appeasal. These are known as Equipment Adjustments (EAs). EAs are only granted after the work has been completed. We all have plans for EAs, but only the ones actually implemented can be scored.

EAs are a complicated category, and often difficult to appraise under certain conditions (passing head-to-head at 60 mph, when covered with mud, etc) but must be used to modify score when feasible. If a vehicle is so covered with mud that you are unable to ascertain any of the EAs, you MUST assume that the EAs, when combined with the MSC 1 adjustment, would place the vehicle in a higher scoring position than any non-MSC 1 Jeep, and immediately initiate the wave. Otherwise, EAs will adjust score as follows:

Engine:

Stock, Pre-CJ, Working Condition: +2
Stock, 8-cyl: +2
Stock, 6-cyl: +1
Stock, 4-cyl: 0
Replaced, 8-cyl: +3
Replaced, 6-cyl (replacing 4-cyl): +2
Replaced, 6-cyl (replacing 6-cyl): 0
Replaced, 6-cyl (replacing 8-cyl): -1
Replaced, 4-cyl: -1

Drivetrain Modifications:

Improved internal mechanical parts (crank/cam/etc): +2 each
Upgraded Transmission: NV4500 or Turbo400: +3, All others: +2
Upgraded Transfer Case: +2
Improved exterior mechanical parts (headers/manifolds/pumps/filters/etc): +1 each
Stone stock in a pre-1970 vehicle: +3 (for nostalgia and historical analysis)
All Comfort enhancements removed for more power: +2

Tires:

Stock or unremarkable: 0
Original Tires on Pre-CJ: +2
Slightly oversized (up to 31"): +1
Over 31, with other appropriate mods: +2
Any size, currently covered with mud: +2
Working tires > 31" with original donut spare: -2
Low-profile: -10

Suspension:

Stock, Pre-CJ: +2 if driver can still walk after an hour in the saddle
Body lift: +1/inch
Suspension lift: +2/inch
Spring-Over Lift: +3
High-quality shocks: +2
Lowered: -20

Other accessories/conditions:

Winch, heavy-duty, obviously used: +2
Winch, heavy-duty, use unclear: +1
Other winch, obviously used: +1
Little, chrome-covered, toy winch: -1
Lockers: +2
Upgraded axles: +1
Upgraded transfer case: +1
Each chrome accessory currently shiny: -1
Each neon accessory: -2
Fire extinguishers: +1
Block and Tackle, anchors, etc: +2
Ropes, straps, tow chains: +1
Tow Hooks: +1
Nerf Bars/Rock Rails, used and scarred: +2
Nerf Bars, shiny, no scars: -1
Heavy duty bash/skid plates: +1
Other protective plating (diamond plate, etc): +2 if scarred, -2 if unscarred
Extra fuel tanks/oversize fuel tanks: +1
External Gear Carrying Rack: +1
Multi disc-CD Player: -1
More than one subwoofer: -1 each
First Aid Kit: +1
Backpack, food, emergency gear (just in case): +2
On-board air compressor: +1
On-board Welder: +2
Girly, shiny chrome center caps: -1
Krylon home-made paint job: +1 (for realizing it's just going to happen again)
Blackout Headlight Covers: -1
Any little flippy interior vanity mirrors: -1
Children in vehicle: +1/each (for proper training/indoctrination), +2 if muddy, an immediate correction if not belted in.
EARNED trip stickers/badges/etc: +1/each
Unearned stickers/badges/etc: -2/each
Stickers advertising for other than 4wd-related businesses: -2 (except No Fear: -5)
MSC 1 vehicle in corporate lot sharing with neighbor vehicles: +1 per vehicle decorated
Correct mental attitude, seen or proven: +3
Windshield down: +1 (+2 if raining/snowing)
Bugs left on face/teeth as evidence of recent windshield down driving: +1 (+2 if more than a week old)
CB radio or other communication tool (for emergency only): +1
Hi-Lift Jack: +2
Flexible caulking to fill leaks and body damage: +2
Dogs as passengers, properly secured: +1 (sharing the joy of Jeeping)
Bringing a new Jeeper into the Family: +5
Extra Lighting, used for night-wheeling, not pastel or neon colored: +1/ea

Battle Scars:

Mashed hood, top, etc., obviously from roll-over: +3
Holes above glove box where passenger ripped grab-bar out: +3
Heavily gouged rocker panels: +2
Bloody seats: +2
V-bent front bumper from being pulled out of that REALLY bad one: +2
Scarred sides from those mis-judged rocks: +1
Any small parking lot dent/scratch still identifiable: -1
Other accessories bent, folded, mangled or mutilated: +1, EXCEPT:
See above, but said item is owned by your spouse: +2
No scars whatsoever: -3 (Unless Pre-CJ restored, then: +3)
New body due to rust only: -5 (unless a rescue, see discussion below)
New body due to damage: Previous damage points carry over (see discussion below)
Fire Damage (bubbled paint, singed seats, etc): +2
Limbs, Shrubs, etc attached well enough to remain at highway speed: +1/each



Disclaimer



Each Jeeper must interpret the rules as they see fit. If there is a dispute, or if you have a question regarding your score, I will be happy to give you my opinion, however, Jeepers are strongly encouraged to follow the spirit of the rules and Just Wave whenever in doubt.

Some people have complained that the Jeep Wave rules may divide Jeep owners. I do not believe this is the intent of the rules! All Jeep owners should stick together: hence we have the Jeep Wave in the first place. The rules are just meant as a bit of fun between Jeep owners and to acknowledge those individuals that have put more time and effort into their vehicles.

I did not create these rules. I am merely carrying on for another Jeep owner who could no longer maintain the web page. If you own, register, insure or drive a Jeep, then you should feel free to copy these rules and distribute them as you see fit.
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