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Unread 01-30-2016, 06:01 PM   #1
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Does anyone make a plug and play harness(w/relays and heavy gauge wiring +/- to battery), for Cherokees, that's NOT made in China or Taiwan? I keep seeing Putco, but can't/won't trust my life to anything from over there.

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Unread 01-30-2016, 06:21 PM   #2
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Putco is kinda cheap, but they work. I have one in each of my Cherokees using Honda relays from the junkyard. You can find H-4 harnesses using the Google. Susquehanna Motorsports has this upgraded headlight wire harness
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Unread 01-30-2016, 06:45 PM   #3
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I used the putco but changed the relays and headlight plug ins. Haven't had any issues with it.
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Unread 01-30-2016, 07:40 PM   #4
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You could contact Daniel Stern Lighting. The company will make a harness for you or simply supply the pieces for you to assemble. I have dealt with the company over the years on various marques of cars & have been very satisfied. He will also sell you the headlamps as well as the bulbs for them. When I get caught up on all of the other XJ work, I will be contacting him for my headlamp upgrade.
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Does anyone make a plug and play harness(w/relays and heavy gauge wiring +/- to battery), for Cherokees, that's NOT made in China or Taiwan? I keep seeing Putco, but can't/won't trust my life to anything from over there.
This is such an antiquated attitude. Being made in Asia isn't an automatic failure of quality anymore, and being American/European-made isn't a guarantee of quality anymore. China makes some good stuff. America makes some garbage.

If quality is your priority, stop fussing about WHERE something is made and simply focus on HOW it is made.
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Unread 01-30-2016, 09:23 PM   #6
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Thanks for the Susquehanna & Daniel Stern leads/replies. Guess I'll build my own and be confident of it's quality. It seems the point and value of heavier gauge leads back to the battery was beyond the grasp of some.

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It seems the point and value of heavier gauge leads back to the battery was beyond the grasp of some.
I don't know of a single relay harness offered that has insufficient wire gauge. The cheapest one I know of its Putco, and it still has 14 or 12 gauge, and even 14 gauge is still plenty fine for running legal (and most illegal) halogen wattages without danger or voltage loss.

Jeep itself was the one that couldn't understand. Long, 18-20 gauge circuit directly through the headlight switch without relays.... the stupidity amazes me to this day.
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Unread 01-31-2016, 04:31 PM   #8
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I spent a little extra and went with the Daniel Stern harness and was very pleased with the quality. I have had no problems with it since the installation which is now going on 4 years.

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Does it require capacitors and diodes? You can make a very nice heavy duty harness utilizing a bussman RTMR 15303. I built one for my JKU with the bussman, H4 ceramic sockets, a H13 male socket, #14 wire for the relay triggers and #12 to the new lights. Works great and gives me an extra 3 relays outputs and 5 constant powered fused outputs. It required the caps and diodes to overcome the jeeps PWM.
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Unread 01-31-2016, 09:01 PM   #10
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Nope, it doesn't need caps or diodes. Only need the relay for switching on and off. 2 female sockets, 1 male socket, 2 relays and 1 or 2 fuses plus the wire. No reason to spend $100 on a headlight wiring harness.
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Unread 02-01-2016, 04:42 PM   #11
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This is the one I'm using. Very nicely made, although the relays aren't fully weatherproof, so mount them somewhere dry or replace them with sealed relays.

Sure, the ARB one is probably the 'best', but not for the $100+ they want for it.
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This is the one I'm using. Very nicely made, although the relays aren't fully weatherproof, so mount them somewhere dry or replace them with sealed relays.

Sure, the ARB one is probably the 'best', but not for the $100+ they want for it.

Search the product name on that though. It's usually $17-$21 not the $34 in that listing. There should be other, cheaper ones with the same title.

It is a good harness though, I got tired of crappy putco relays and connectors and replaced it with that one when I realized it was only a few bucks more than making my own once the sockets, fuse holders and relays I didn't have sitting around added.
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Here is the ebay harness that gets recommended often for $21 shipped: http://www.ebay.com/itm/330997592807?rmvSB=true

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Anyone have a part number for the relays? My high beam one died on my Putco harness, but it's over 3 years old and has just been flopped over the fuse box the whole time so I can't complain.
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Unread 02-01-2016, 07:06 PM   #15
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Anyone have a part number for the relays? My high beam one died on my Putco harness, but it's over 3 years old and has just been flopped over the fuse box the whole time so I can't complain.
They are for a honda and are about $15 at advanced auto.

Too expensive in my opinion for as crappy as they are. Thats why I switched to the Ford 5 pin style harness.
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