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Unread 02-28-2011, 06:57 AM   #61
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I absolutely do not recommend that this bumper is used for winch applications. It is not built to take the necessary load in the appropriate and SAFE way, most especially with the way the bumper is currently mounted.

Have a crap ton of metal on the front of your Jeep is not the same thing as having a crap ton of well-engineered metal on the front of your Jeep.
I know, I was adding on top of what others have already said about mounting.

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Unread 02-28-2011, 11:56 AM   #62
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Just to clear everything up i made mount extensions that use 6 BOLTS PER SIDE. i figured if so many people say its wrong then it is probably wrong. So now there are 12 bolts and 18 inches per side holding this thing on. No money for winch so no worries. the winch idea went out the window when i put the verticle bars in
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Unread 02-28-2011, 03:35 PM   #63
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so your saying its ok to be a prick if you turn around and be nice? not how it works. And if you took the time to read what I typed, im pretty sure I gave my input.
My advice works however I want it to. If it worked how you wanted it to, then it would be your advice. I did read what you wrote, and it was painful to attempt deciphering the non-punctuated mess you tried to pass off as a paragraph. But like I said, it was just a repeat of what everyone else had already said. I'm done bickering with you and cluttering up the OP's thread, anything else you feel you need to say feel free to PM me.

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I am a welder, and it makes zero difference how neat a weld is, as long as it has the proper penetration. That being said, I did not critque his welds.
I would agree that a pretty weld isn't always a strong weld, but I hope you aren't trying to defend his welding. The penetration is inconsistent at best, creating plenty of weak areas. Everyone starts somewhere, but starting on a project with the consequence of possible serious injury isn't a good idea.

To the OP, you seem to have a good grasp on things, and that fact that you took some ****, and responded by accepting the criticism and advice shows a lot. With that attitude and some practice you'll end up a good fabricator in no time, it's the people who won't take any advice that end up with no skill.
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Unread 02-28-2011, 04:22 PM   #64
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Unread 02-28-2011, 09:01 PM   #65
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Ok, so IK brookhart personally. If he built this bumper with the kind of quality he put in his brushgaurd, this thing is damn solid. As for the whole winch thing, all he has to do is give me a ring lol. I think the fact that hes 18 and fabbing up some cool stuff is pretty amazing. Its nice to see someone who puts blood sweat and tears into every little park of his jeep. Now for the whole "its too big thing" this is not the only bumper hes ever going to build, I believe this is a live and learn type thing. I just know I cant wait to see it.
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Unread 03-01-2011, 09:28 AM   #66
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I'd like to add one small comment about the grinding photo...

Idiot! Fool! Dumba**!

You're not wearing ear protection (muffs)!!!!! I know that grinder doesn't seem too loud, but it really is. Exposure to even moderately loud noise can lead to hearing loss. You MUST get in the habit of grabbing the muffs every time you make any noise, even if it's "just for a second." Trust me on this one, guys... it's no fun being hard of hearing.

BTW, nice job on the bumper.
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Unread 03-01-2011, 09:39 AM   #67
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Uuugh... people! Really? Move on! Unsubscribed!
agreed, you ALL win the internets, now put your I}icks and rulers away and get onto more important things
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Unread 03-01-2011, 09:42 AM   #68
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my constructive criticism is, i would have made it out of thinner metal, because of weight purposes (and yes i understand project overkill), seconndly i would have done the brushguard differently, but to each his own, good start.

Obviously any experience making bumpers is good experience if you know good from bad, and 4 out of 5 pages of this thread consisits of diliberation on that very topic, so it seems you had to have learned something, haha

good work!
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Unread 03-01-2011, 09:49 AM   #69
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Don't expect to post your **** online and not be criticized. For an 18 year old kid making his first bumper, you did a decent job, but there is plenty of room for improvement. My first suggestion, like previously stated, is to make sure you tie the bumper in a lot better. The last thing you want is to kill or injure one of your buddies if that thing lets go. The bumper sticks out way too far for a non-winch application, but if you cut the corners off at a 45* angle it will help the overall 'flow', and make the bumper look a little more proportional. As far as the stinger, it's a bit too much for me, but if you like it, then keep it. I'll give you credit, everything looks even, straight and well measured. Your welds need a lot of work, but we all start somewhere. I'm no pro, and not all mine are picture perfect, but I've been doing it long enough to know when even an ugly one will hold. You just need practice, and a recovery point isn't always the best place to hone those skills because if a weld breaks it could leave your *** stranded, or like I said someone could get hurt. Don't let *******s like me discourage you, use the criticism as an incentive to get better and prove me wrong. Good luck finishing the bumper, with a little more work it could make for a good deer killer.
i think if this was posted first, it would have went over a lot better
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Unread 03-01-2011, 05:11 PM   #70
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holy over kill...sweet bumper be next time someone see you coming they will move
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Unread 03-02-2011, 09:12 PM   #71
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Just to clear everything up i made mount extensions that use 6 BOLTS PER SIDE. i figured if so many people say its wrong then it is probably wrong. So now there are 12 bolts and 18 inches per side holding this thing on. No money for winch so no worries. the winch idea went out the window when i put the verticle bars in
good call man, i built a bumper for my first xj, and i rear ended somebody with it. didnt do a dam thing to the bumper, but pushed the whole thing in towards the grill. so on the tie ins

your doing great putting up with all the whiney little *****s on this site, keep it up man
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Unread 04-02-2011, 04:50 PM   #72
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Hello everybody. Finally got this thing done. It was painted by Midwest Body and Frame. Elvis did a great job. paint code PQ7 and this thing looks sweet. My dad was a huge help on this project and he made me slow down and think about everything rather than rush through and wing it. Dad spent 20 plus hours smoothing this thing out. So here it is!
















Thanks for the help everybody. I have gotten better at welding and since picked up some hotter burning wire that penetrates deeper. I will have another build in a couple of weeks for the green jeep and that one will be much simpler.
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Unread 04-02-2011, 04:55 PM   #73
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deffinatly needed recovery points.

Grinding down welds makes them much weaker.
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Unread 04-02-2011, 04:58 PM   #74
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Yeah i thought about that so thats why the recovery points are going on the unibody tie ins. I didnt grind any of the welds that really hold anything just the ones the needed to look pretty.
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Unread 04-02-2011, 05:11 PM   #75
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