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Unread 07-05-2013, 05:52 PM   #1
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Bought a '99 XJ last week. It's a 4.0L auto with 8.25 rear.

I need to have it ready by August 10th for a big trail ride so initial plan over the next 4 weeks is:

4.5RE Super Flex
33x13.50r15 Mud Grapplers on steel wheels
JCR front bumper/GTS/t case skid
(Might test run M95 shocks)
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Rush rush rush.

Eventually I'd love to have it customized to the max on 35s but for now it's just my trail beater.

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Unread 07-05-2013, 06:10 PM   #2
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4.5" on 33s isn't exactly LCOG. Pretty standard for 33s on an XJ.
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Unread 07-05-2013, 06:26 PM   #3
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4.5" on 33s isn't exactly LCOG. Pretty standard for 33s on an XJ.
Yeah, it's super popular now, I know. But it will end up bigger and not going higher.

A ton I see are sky high on 33s around here still.

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Sounds like a solid plan to me. Can't wait to see the pics.
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Unread 07-05-2013, 09:09 PM   #5
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4.5" on 33s isn't exactly LCOG. Pretty standard for 33s on an XJ.
X2, I went up close to 4.5 and 35s and I'm scared its too tall lol.
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If you want LCOG go 3"-4" on 35's or 0-3"and 33's! Trimming is required to have LCOG.
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Unread 07-05-2013, 09:56 PM   #7
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More than trimming is required. You need to seriously look at modifying wheel wells, quarter panels, ect and need to do some serious bump stopping. If you actually plan on wheeling it you're going to need serious rocker protection and at least a tcase and gas tank skid.
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Unread 07-05-2013, 11:25 PM   #8
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More than trimming is required. You need to seriously look at modifying wheel wells, quarter panels, ect and need to do some serious bump stopping. If you actually plan on wheeling it you're going to need serious rocker protection and at least a tcase and gas tank skid.
^ This X a Billion !

I'm at 3.5" on 33's and I can tell you my Rigidco Sliders, and Gastank skid get tons of use not to mention I am on my 2nd crossmember due to slamming it on rocks
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Unread 07-05-2013, 11:26 PM   #9
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Way to lay on the pressure for 35s. The issue there is I don't have time for a regear so I thought a super aggressive 33 would suffice.

I'll do it right, don't worry. Either that or it won't survive it's first trip to Rausch. I wouldn't bother wheeling it without being skidded up at a minimum.

Maybe I'll change the title to "LCGish".

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Unread 07-05-2013, 11:42 PM   #10
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X2, I went up close to 4.5 and 35s and I'm scared its too tall lol.
You'll be fine...sheesh
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Rausch creek isn't too bad when I lived back east I went there and to paragon a lot. That's when all I had was wranglers. My best friend always had XJ's he did pretty much every black trail at both parks on a 3" lift with skids and a. Rear locker.


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Unread 07-06-2013, 09:17 AM   #12
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I haven't seen all of the black trails but some are pretty tough and I didn't want to try in my Rubicon on 35s. I think mostly because it was a $30k ride and couldn't risk it. I'm confident the shorter wheelbase and cheaper price of the XJ will fair better.

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Unread 07-06-2013, 09:34 AM   #13
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I'm not trying to pressure you into 35s or a shorter lift. You can't slap a LCOG rig together and expect to do any real wheeling on it in a few weeks unless you're dumping a lot of time and money into it. People think you can just slap big tires on a small lift and be good to go but in reality it takes some pretty extensive work to make it viable off road on a setup like that. Even low you really want to get rid of stock control arms and go to a mid arm because the stock arms don't give you much droop which is what you really need for a LCOG setup or you're going to get hung up on everything. LCOG has become really popular because people think it's a cheap way to go, and it is compared to a lot of setups, but they don't realize the work that needs to go into it to compensate the difference.

I wouldn't worry about getting through on 4.5 and 33s. Plenty of stock rigs have done everything at Rausch, you'll be fine. Driver skill is more important anyway.

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You'll be fine...sheesh
Lol I know. I'm not THAT seriously worried about it. It is the tallest jeep I've ever had though.
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I'm not trying to pressure you into 35s or a shorter lift. You can't slap a LCOG rig together and expect to do any real wheeling on it in a few weeks unless you're dumping a lot of time and money into it. People think you can just slap big tires on a small lift and be good to go but in reality it takes some pretty extensive work to make it viable off road on a setup like that. Even low you really want to get rid of stock control arms and go to a mid arm because the stock arms don't give you much droop which is what you really need for a LCOG setup or you're going to get hung up on everything. LCOG has become really popular because people think it's a cheap way to go, and it is compared to a lot of setups, but they don't realize the work that needs to go into it to compensate the difference.

I wouldn't worry about getting through on 4.5 and 33s. Plenty of stock rigs have done everything at Rausch, you'll be fine. Driver skill is more important anyway.

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X2. It's far from cheap, ask me how I know lol. And to do it right, you may never want to DD it again after all the cutting you'll end up doing.
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