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Unread 04-14-2013, 11:10 AM   #31
94beachxj
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the bad heads in the penta tick has nothing to do with fuel. I am sure Jeep would love to blame the fuel, void the warranty.

I can get 100octain unleaded, or 105 octain LEADED at about any gas station here. The latter is about 7;50$ a gallon. Just pony up.
I own a 2012 Wrangler with those so called "bad" Pentastar heads.
I used Real gas, and used the proper detailed "break-in" procedures that were in the Jeep's owners manuel.
At 16k miles,my Petastar engine is as/or more quiet that the ones I have seen with the head replacements.
I guess you could be correct, on the gas thing, but I have the Jeep to prove my points

$7.50 a gal???? hello. lol

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Unread 04-14-2013, 02:33 PM   #32
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$7.50 a gal???? hello. lol
If you've got an engine that takes leaded, 100LL avgas is a little cheaper (~$6.50/gal) at most GA (general aviation) airports but it still isn't exactly "cheap". And since it isn't "legal" for on-road use you have to pump into cans, though the same applies to leaded racing fuel. Of course once you take it off-site you can do whatever you want with it.
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Unread 04-25-2013, 10:29 PM   #33
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Unless you are in the great state of "Kalifornia". Where not all the nuts and fruits are on the trees,
If you get caught with leaded gas, even in your lawn mower, you are subject to a nasty visit from the AQMD.
And, I would bet they stick your Jeep, Truck, cars, weedwhacker....etal. Just to prove that you are a scofflaw.

Ain't the EPA grand?
I live in a very sensitive area for smog, and yes, I do remember the days you could not breathe because of the smog.
But adding alcohol, and other junk to our fuel causes the vehicles to use more fuel, so the amount of hydrocarbons, and CO2 would I think remain the same.
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Unread 04-26-2013, 12:31 AM   #34
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If you've got an engine that takes leaded, 100LL avgas is a little cheaper (~$6.50/gal) at most GA (general aviation) airports but it still isn't exactly "cheap". And since it isn't "legal" for on-road use you have to pump into cans, though the same applies to leaded racing fuel. Of course once you take it off-site you can do whatever you want with it.
When did AvGas become outlawed on the street? I used to fill my Bug up with 112LL at Aretz years ago - had the heads mightily shaved, wouldn't even idle right on anything less than 100LL...

Ran like a raped ape on 110LL, 112LL, 120LL, and even 130LL when I could find it!
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Unread 04-26-2013, 03:49 PM   #35
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When did AvGas become outlawed on the street? I used to fill my Bug up with 112LL at Aretz years ago - had the heads mightily shaved, wouldn't even idle right on anything less than 100LL...

Ran like a raped ape on 110LL, 112LL, 120LL, and even 130LL when I could find it!
Leaded gasoline of any kind has been illegal for on-road use since 1996 (as per EPA). Leaded gas is still legal for off-road use though (in most states).

Officially using leaded gas on public roads carries a maximum fine of $10,000 though it is not well enforced in most areas.
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