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Unread 03-31-2013, 11:41 AM   #1
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E-15 to replace E-10?

I know and have seen the damaging effect this E-10 stuff does to my jeeps, mowers, small engines. Thats why I converted back to using real gas a long time ago.. Its not cheap, but replacing engine parts is more expesive down the road imo.
Now I hear this E-15 is going to replace the latter?

Wow!
Most older Jeeps like mine, will not run on that E-15 according to the owners manuel.
Also E15 could damage valve and valve seats, and other criticial engine parts.
EX :This Latest Pentastar so called "Head issue" is primarly caused by this corn fuel and not using proper break in procedures.Chrysler is looking into it.
Valve trains, cams,injectors etc ... are being compromised by this fuel. IMO.
When I saw the cam shaft in my former 2000 Olds mini van.....It was totally covered in sludge and the cam shaft was falling apart. It was due to the moisture and other harmful effects of that corn gas.

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Unread 03-31-2013, 11:43 AM   #2
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Unread 03-31-2013, 11:49 AM   #3
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IValve trains, cams,injectors etc ... are being compromised by this fuel. IMO.
When I saw the cam shaft in my former 2000 Olds mini van.....It was totally covered in sludge and the cam shaft was falling apart. It was due to the moisture and other harmful effects of that corn gas.
If your getting gas on the cam(s) you got bigger issues then what gas your using.

Bet your 3.1/3.4 looked something like this..............


That would be a oil issue and general lack of proper maintenance not a fuel issue.Plus GM V6's have a common issue with intake gaskets and getting coolant into the oil.
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Unread 03-31-2013, 11:50 AM   #4
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Boo!!! I hate ethanol with a burning passion. The stuff destroys marine engines too, not to mention wreaking havoc on Jeeps. I know that if you have an engine failure in a Honda marine engine, they will test the fuel. If the fuel shows any traces of ethanol, they will void your warrantee. Luckily I have a station with ethanol free gas less than a mile from my house. Last fill up in the YJ was $3.51/gallon.
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Unread 03-31-2013, 11:53 AM   #5
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I use real gas in both my vehicles in my little 3.5 v6 nissan I run premium real 100% gas and that thing will purr when started up and driving! 100% GAS FTW!!
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Unread 03-31-2013, 02:17 PM   #6
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If your getting gas on the cam(s) you got bigger issues then what gas your using.

Bet your 3.1/3.4 looked something like this..............


That would be a oil issue and general lack of proper maintenance not a fuel issue.Plus GM V6's have a common issue with intake gaskets and getting coolant into the oil.
Bingo thats a mess huh?
Done with GMC I only own Jeeps now!
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Unread 03-31-2013, 03:11 PM   #7
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Can someone please tell my uneducated self what "Real gas" is?
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Unread 03-31-2013, 03:21 PM   #8
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Can someone please tell my uneducated self what "Real gas" is?
Its gasoline without ethonal.
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Unread 03-31-2013, 03:55 PM   #9
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There are still stations that sell the "unblended CORN gas"

It just cost more.

Wonder why?
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There are still stations that sell the "unblended CORN gas"

It just cost more.

Wonder why?
The same reason they charged more back in the day when they started going to unleaded gas.They charged more to not put in lead.
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Unread 04-03-2013, 03:25 PM   #11
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How do I find out what gas stations sell straight gas near me?
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Unread 04-03-2013, 04:23 PM   #12
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How do I find out what gas stations sell straight gas near me?
Word of mouth. Try your local Napa or Car Quest as well. Those guys should know.
If you can not get to one of those stations. Use Lucas ! They make a product thats outstanding!
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Unread 04-03-2013, 05:39 PM   #13
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There's a app for that
Its called "pure gas"
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Unread 04-04-2013, 05:20 PM   #14
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Can E15 Gasoline Really Damage Your Engine?
Automakers have filed a lawsuit against the EPA's decision to make E15 (gasoline with 15 percent alcohol) legal for all cars after 2007. They argue that, among other problems, the blend could damage the engine. Wait, moonshiners used to run their cars on 190-proof hooch. Can ethanol really do damage to an engine? Yes. Here's how.


Read more: E15 and Engines - Can Ethanol Damage my " Engine " - Popular Mechanics

I just think there are many people out there that think this stuff is great.

Peace,

BTW....What do auto makers know?

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Unread 04-04-2013, 10:37 PM   #15
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Plus as a fuel, ethanol (corn especially) is just plain inefficient. I'm very NOT a fan of ethanol fuel, and I'm one of them filthy, progressive, liberal types that so many people around here love to hate. As an additive to gasoline to clean-up emissions, I approve of it especially over the old MTBE, but only as an additive. As a fuel, ethanol is a dead-end, but with all the corruption and ignorance in the world especially among business and political leaders, I don't expect anyone to suddenly see the light.
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