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Unread 04-19-2013, 09:00 AM   #1
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Drop Brackets or new LCAs

What's your preference? I'm going from 3 to 4.5/5". Long arms are down the road a ways. So what would you do? I'm not a pretty tight budget

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Unread 04-19-2013, 09:22 AM   #2
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I'd get adjustables if I were you. Drop brackets would probably do it though, lots of guys here run them with high success.
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Unread 04-19-2013, 09:39 AM   #3
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I'd get adjustables if I were you. Drop brackets would probably do it though, lots of guys here run them with high success.
That's what I was thinking. I will probably go with whatever I find a good deal on, on the forum
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Drop brackets are fine if the XJ will be a gentle to moderate off road machine. No galloping through the the rocks or prerunning. The extra leverage they put on the lower control arm frame mounts will eventually lead to metal fatigue if the suspension is abused.
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Drop brackets are fine if the XJ will be a gentle to moderate off road machine. No galloping through the the rocks or prerunning. The extra leverage they put on the lower control arm frame mounts will eventually lead to metal fatigue if the suspension is abused.
I go in the rocks plenty with mine, and although I have dropped off ledges a few times and landed on them, Rocky Road Outfitters and one other drop bracket supplier go all the way back to the crossmember bolts and RRO are made of 1/4" plate thoughout. If you're worried about metal fatigue, you can stitch weld them in place.

I'd be more worried about steering box mount and rear unibody metal fatigue than LCA mounts.

Eventually Long arms will be added to my rig, but Drop brackets are performing very well at 1/2 the price.
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Drop brackets are fine if the XJ will be a gentle to moderate off road machine. No galloping through the the rocks or prerunning. The extra leverage they put on the lower control arm frame mounts will eventually lead to metal fatigue if the suspension is abused.
Really? Jeepspeeds prefer drop brackets because it keeps the 4 link stock setup. Wile most long arms RE radius arms which change caster throughout the travel range. Drop brackets with braces are more the strong enough for nothing you could throw at em.

Rough country's are cheapest but their braces are so short and could over time fatigue. Rocky road and rubicon express go all the way back to the cross member and I doubt you'd ever have an issue with them!
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Unread 04-20-2013, 05:28 PM   #7
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Drop brackets are fine if the XJ will be a gentle to moderate off road machine. No galloping through the the rocks or prerunning. The extra leverage they put on the lower control arm frame mounts will eventually lead to metal fatigue if the suspension is abused.
That is BS.

Properly installed and braced, Drop Brackets will outlast the rest of the Jeep. RR and RE use 1/4" steel for their brackets and braces.

If you have lift kit control arms for your 3" lift, you can use them with drop brackets. If you don't have aftermarket control arms, you should at least get some lowers. I have found several sets of lift kit control arms in the junkyard, and have also bought/sold several sets of used control arms.

You should keep your eyes open for some used drop brackets and some used control arms. You will want to have one set of control arms be adjustable, and you might be able to get away with both sets being non-adjustable.
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That is BS.

Properly installed and braced Drop Brackets will outlast the rest of the Jeep. RR and RE use 1/4" steel for their brackets and braces.
My recommendation is based on the purchase on the typical kit that I see installed on Jeeps I repair and disassemble; the drop brackets only and no braces installed. If the brackets are paired with the braces then go nuts. They will have enough support with that setup.
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My recommendation is based on the purchase on the typical kit that I see installed on Jeeps I repair and disassemble; the drop brackets only and no braces installed. If the brackets are paired with the braces then go nuts. They will have enough support with that setup.
Not being an *** towards you just wanna make a general comment..for future readers. If you buy drop brackets and have no braces..make your own or buy a set! The extra leverage gained by adding the drop brackets will litterally bend them back from the force off driving. The braces stop that from happening!
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Unread 04-20-2013, 11:44 PM   #10
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Not being an *** towards you just wanna make a general comment..for future readers. If you buy drop brackets and have no braces..make your own or buy a set! The extra leverage gained by adding the drop brackets will litterally bend them back from the force off driving. The braces stop that from happening!
Hehehe. I started stripping a 2001 XJ at the local junk yard today. Missing bump stops, three inch lift blocks, and the rear frame has big dents where the axle slammed into it. People do dumb things with lifts when they have no guidance.
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Hehehe. I started stripping a 2001 XJ at the local junk yard today. Missing bump stops, three inch lift blocks, and the rear frame has big dents where the axle slammed into it. People do dumb things with lifts when they have no guidance.
Haha I've seen some stupid things lol. Why people do certain hings ill never know.
True story here, someone made cage braces out of fence post and the tubing itself had to be 1/8" at most. Full trophy truck bro runner. Was rolled, cage wrecked like it wasnt even there but it had some gnar gnar 6" over beams so it must of been a trophy truck. I couldn't believe it when I saw it lol. It was at a local junkyard.
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Unread 04-21-2013, 12:49 AM   #12
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Like Tim suggested, shop around for used brackets and arms. They'll get you nearly anywhere long arms will and will ride just as good for half the price. I have never truly been stuck on mine and the only wheeling I do is either rocks or fast stuff. Been great. I even use them to slide off of ledges. For a budget minded person I recommend them. And ALL drop brackets on the market come with braces of some kind. Obviously the ones that tie into the crossbar bolts are better
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