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Unread 03-22-2012, 01:22 PM   #1
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doorless??????

Ok guys would anybody be from ny and know what the laws would be on removing the doors on a Cherokee lol sry if it is a dumb ??

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Unread 03-22-2012, 01:23 PM   #2
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So long as you have AUX mirrors put on, it is legal.
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Unread 03-22-2012, 01:27 PM   #3
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Now do you need both mirrors or just the driver sides?
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Unread 03-22-2012, 01:28 PM   #4
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Unread 03-22-2012, 01:38 PM   #5
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Ok just cuz I looked up the vehicle code(equipment needed for operating on ny state roads) for new york state and all it said for mirrors was the driver side and the interior mirror nothing about no doors ot any thing about both sides I just asked to see if any one had ever had a problem in new york
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Unread 03-22-2012, 02:04 PM   #6
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other option: http://www.warriorproducts.com/catal...venture-doors/
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If you want to go door less, Install a cage, Or buy a Wrangler or CJ
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Unread 03-22-2012, 07:41 PM   #8
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If you want to go door less, Install a cage, Or buy a Wrangler or CJ
but where is the fun in that?
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Unread 03-22-2012, 08:08 PM   #9
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If you want to go door less, Install a cage, Or buy a Wrangler or CJ
The door provide zero structural reinforcement. There's no need for a cage.

OP, you'll need whatever mirrors you'd normally have to have for an inspection. Here in VA you only have to have the rear view and drivers side.

New York:
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10. a. Every motor vehicle, when driven or operated upon a public highway, shall be equipped with a mirror or other reflecting device so adjusted that the operator of such vehicle shall have a clear and full view of the road and condition of traffic behind such vehicle.

b. In addition to the above requirements, an omnibus having a capacity of ten or more passengers registered in this state and manufactured or assembled after July first, nineteen hundred seventy, shall be equipped with a mirror attached to the right side of such vehicle and so adjusted that the driver thereof shall have a clear and full view of the road and condition of traffic behind such vehicle.

c. Every passenger motor vehicle registered in this state and manufactured or assembled after June thirtieth, nineteen hundred sixty-nine, and designated as a nineteen hundred seventy or subsequent year model, shall be equipped with adjustable interior mirrors meeting specifications established by the commissioner which specifications may provide minimum and maximum reflectance values.

d. Every new passenger-type motor vehicle, except a motorcycle, manufactured for sale in New York state on or after January first, in the year next succeeding the effective date of this paragraph shall be manufactured with an interior rear-view mirror of the selective position prismatic type with a reflectance value in the night driving position of at least four percent; or its functional equivalent. For purposes of this section, "passenger-type motor vehicle" shall mean any motor vehicle with a seating capacity of not more than fifteen adults, not including the driver, that is equipped with one or more rear windows. Any violation of the provisions of this paragraph by any manufacturer shall constitute an offense and shall be punishable by a civil fine of not more than seven hundred fifty dollars for each offense.

e. Every single-unit motor vehicle registered in this state, operated for commercial purposes and having a cube style or enclosed walk-in delivery bay, where such delivery bay has a length of eight feet six inches or more, but not exceeding a length of eighteen feet, shall be equipped with a cross-view back-up mirror system, rear video system, rear object detection system, or other device, which enables the driver of the vehicle to detect by means of a visual, or visual and audible warning-indicator, persons and objects located directly behind the vehicle. The commissioner is hereby authorized to promulgate regulations providing specifications for mirrors or other devices as required by this paragraph.

10-a. It shall be unlawful after July first, nineteen hundred sixty-seven to operate on any public highway in this state any motor vehicle registered in this state, manufactured or assembled on or after such date, and designated as a nineteen hundred sixty-eight or later model, unless such vehicle is equipped with an adjustable side view mirror which shall be affixed to the left outside of such vehicle and which shall be adjustable so that the operator of such vehicle may have a clear view of the road and condition of traffic on the left side and to the rear of such vehicle.
As long as you've got a seatbelt on and mirrors it shouldn't be an issue. If you're close to PA however it is illegal to go doorless if they didn't come from the factory.
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Unread 03-22-2012, 08:18 PM   #11
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it is illegal to go doorless if they didn't come from the factory.
technically all doors (no matter what vehicle) are removable. wranglers are just most known/easier to remove

if you ever get a ticket and you wernt breaking any other laws, you CAN NOT get a ticket for being doorless. if you do.. fight it and tell the judge that
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technically all doors (no matter what vehicle) are removable. wranglers are just most known/easier to remove

if you ever get a ticket and you wernt breaking any other laws, you CAN NOT get a ticket for being doorless. if you do.. fight it and tell the judge that
If they weren't meant to be removed from the factory (and you know what I mean) you absolutely can get ticketed in PA. The law specifically states so. The XJ doors have to be modified to be removed.

If the law specifically address driving around doorless and what does and doesn't count you're not going to win in court.

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175.77 (f) (f) Doors. A vehicle specified under this subchapter shall be equipped with doors of a type used as original equipment. The doors shall open and close securely unless the vehicle has been manufactured or modified to the extent that there is no roof or side. Tailgates, except on vehicles where the tailgate gives access to the passenger compartment, may be replaced with wood planking, nets or other material that will prevent loss of load. Tailgates may be removed when optional equipment, for example a truck camper, is added.
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Unread 03-23-2012, 09:36 AM   #13
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If they weren't meant to be removed from the factory (and you know what I mean) you absolutely can get ticketed in PA. The law specifically states so. The XJ doors have to be modified to be removed.

If the law specifically address driving around doorless and what does and doesn't count you're not going to win in court.
Well I live in ny and don't plan on goin to pa any time soon lol an I do have the laws printed out in a folder and I carry it with me. But thanks guys for the help I love this forum!!!!
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Unread 03-23-2012, 05:30 PM   #14
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If they weren't meant to be removed from the factory (and you know what I mean) you absolutely can get ticketed in PA. The law specifically states so. The XJ doors have to be modified to be removed.

If the law specifically address driving around doorless and what does and doesn't count you're not going to win in court.
The cop that gives you a ticket for modifying your hinges on an xj to go doorless, needs something better to do
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Unread 03-23-2012, 06:33 PM   #15
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The cop that gives you a ticket for modifying your hinges on an xj to go doorless, needs something better to do
Meh, it's part of PA safety standards. Should a cop not be able to pull you for lights being out or other issues with your vehicle?
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