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Unread 06-06-2013, 09:08 PM   #1
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'Dangerous Jeeps' on Change.org

So this lady saw a Jeep get slammed in the rear end and says that makes a Jeep dangerous? As far as I know quite a few models of cars have a rear located gas tank. Should we ban those too?
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And the story
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/06/us/jeep-crash/index.html

Im very angry about this. A few freak accidents and suddenly its a dangerous car?

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Unread 06-06-2013, 09:12 PM   #2
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So this lady saw a Jeep get slammed in the rear end and says that makes a Jeep dangerous? As far as I know quite a few models of cars have a rear located gas tank. Should we ban those too?
Links:

http://www.change.org/dangerousjeeps

And the story
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/06/us/jeep-crash/index.html

Im very angry about this. A few freak accidents and suddenly its a dangerous car?
Lmao what about the pinto ? Suburban ? Mustang corvette ? Just a couple lol what a joke
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Unread 06-06-2013, 09:14 PM   #3
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The NHTSA has been saying they're dangerous for several years now, but the fact is the odds of a tank igniting from a rear impact are one in several millions and it's only happened a handful of times. The claims are absurd and unfounded and it would literally be cheaper for Chrysler to buy back every Jeep under the "recall" than to try to relocate the gas tanks.

They met the standards at the time and the standards they're pushing for now are so absurd that they're the reason why we have dumb bull**** like the 2014 Cherokee.
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Unread 06-06-2013, 09:23 PM   #4
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Its a shame now that Fiat owns Chrysler and is no more. We wont be seeing the same quality of offroad specs of 4x4 ever gain maybe..? This is just a biased opinion on unfounded data.
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Unread 06-06-2013, 09:34 PM   #5
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Its a shame now that Fiat owns Chrysler and is no more. We wont be seeing the same quality of offroad specs of 4x4 ever gain maybe..? This is just a biased opinion on unfounded data.
Chrysler still exists, Fiat merely owns a majority holding in them like Chrysler did with AMC. Chrysler never did anything for 4x4 or offroading other than bastardize old Jeep and AMC designs and make a few packages better than their original Chrysler counterparts.

That being said, there may be hope under Fiat. The Cherokee and Grand Cherokee Trailhawk packages are promising and they've improved Dodge and reinvented Ram trucks as their own brand while retaining their most positive aspects. They've also hinted at Diesel Jeeps and a pickup based on the Wrangler and JK8 package.
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Unread 06-06-2013, 09:56 PM   #6
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They met the standards at the time
Exactly. The vehicles met the standards in place when they were built, and the NHTSA and various "action" groups are trying to apply current standards that didn't go into effect until 2008 retroactively. Aside from that these collisions involved extremely high impact forces (such as a semi hitting a stopped Jeep at 60MPH+) that even exceeded current standards in 78% of the cases.

Here's Chrysler's response, I definitely have to side with Chrysler on this one.
http://www.chryslergroupllc.com/Inve...0413Facebook11
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Unread 06-07-2013, 01:31 AM   #7
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Here's the story. http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/...call-vehicles/

My solution to the whole thing is to just give each owner who is worried about this incident a free gas tank skid. I mean, what does it cost to mold a piece of steel now a days. Hell, it may lead to a few jobs.
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Unread 06-07-2013, 08:22 AM   #8
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I like that idea a heck of a lot more than tarnishing the good Jeep name.
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Unread 06-07-2013, 08:51 AM   #9
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My solution is to tell people to man-up and realize that driving a vehicle on the road is an inherently dangerous thing, and that "**** happens" when two 4000lbs vehicles are slammed into each other, and that they should count themselves lucky they don't drive one of the jeeps that bursts into flames without even being hit first (the JKs)
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Exactly. The vehicles met the standards in place when they were built, and the NHTSA and various "action" groups are trying to apply current standards that didn't go into effect until 2008 retroactively. Aside from that these collisions involved extremely high impact forces (such as a semi hitting a stopped Jeep at 60MPH+) that even exceeded current standards in 78% of the cases.

Here's Chrysler's response, I definitely have to side with Chrysler on this one.
http://www.chryslergroupllc.com/Inve...0413Facebook11
My thoughts exactly. Bunch of bull.
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Unread 06-09-2013, 12:00 AM   #11
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They ain't gettin' my Jeep.
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i work in a salvage yard/towing company, im also an emt on the ambulance and a volenteer firefighter, the only vehicle ive seen a gas tank rupture on was a 98 grand am and that car was almost folded in half. not one grand cherokee ive seen in a wreak has the tank ever ruptured on, not saying it cant happen but just about any vehicle hit hard enough or in the right place has the potential to combust.
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If this were even remotely worth taking seriously then they'd have to recall every motorcycle ever built.
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Unread 06-12-2013, 11:29 AM   #14
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I've got an idea, we'll just restrict fuel tank capacity, that will solve the problem, no one needs a high capacity 15+gal tank anyways, its for the children. 3gal seems like a totally random and safe number or maybe 5gal, if it saves one life its worth it.
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Unread 06-12-2013, 12:37 PM   #15
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I've got an idea, we'll just restrict fuel tank capacity, that will solve the problem, no one needs a high capacity 15+gal tank anyways, its for the children. 3gal seems like a totally random and safe number or maybe 5gal, if it saves one life its worth it.
I see what you did there.
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