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post #1 of 21 Old 10-19-2010, 05:36 PM Thread Starter
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Can your transmission actually Freeze? (as in get too cold)

Heres something I have been curious about but have not posted until now.
I have a 2000 XJ, and last winter I parked it in deep snow overnight. In the morning I was going skiing so I went out to warm the jeep up, and move it forward a bit so I could more easily reach my ski rack. Anyway after I put it in drive and went forward a few feet I went to put it back in park but the transmission wouldnt budge. I drove around the block a few times, and when I got back I had no problem. After that incident I have never had any further problems.
So Could my transmission have gotten soo cold it wouldnt go back into park?


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post #2 of 21 Old 10-19-2010, 07:19 PM
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Sounds more like your shifter linkage froze, and the exhaust or tranny heated it up enough to get it back into park.


I know at around -10* my tranny starts to hate life. I usually let it idle for about 5 minutes before I drive anywhere. You can hear it whining and the shifts are extremely harsh.

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just wait until it gets down to -45...

Is it considered "stuck" if you get yourself out?
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I concur with the thought on the frozen linkage, I haven't had a problem shifting mine since I got it in 2005. I've been out in most of the snow storms. Let it warm up before you drive it, go out a few minutes early and start it up, put the heater on max heat+defrost to clear the windows and go back inside and finish that hot chocolate.

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I know at around -10* my tranny starts to hate life. I usually let it idle for about 5 minutes before I drive anywhere. You can hear it whining and the shifts are extremely harsh.
That's because the fluid is cold and thick, making the line pressures real high.

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just wait until it gets down to -45...
hahahahaha

After about -10 it's all the same I think.


X2 on frozen linkage, AW4's warm up fast...so typically the first few shifts are hard and then it smooths out from there.

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Ok cool thanks guys, I was really just curious about what was actually going on

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Same problem here. The shifts I can live with, but when I got in mine this morning I couldn't push in the button on the gear shifter to get the f'er into gear. I also can't just run out 10 min before I want to leave and start her up, because it won't idle when it is cold (I am collecting info to troubleshoot this issue). I have to have my foot on the gas to keep it running for a bit. It is usually ok after I get going and can idle after about 1/4 mile when I get to the end of my development, but takes a few minutes if I'm just sitting at idle in the driveway.

I'm glad the shifter issue is probably just a frozen linkage. It WAS below 20 degrees this morning. I know that's not -45 as mentioned above, but I live in the f'n south. Isn't it supposed to be warm down here?
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silly cold temperatures. it was about 80* here on sunday.

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I would like it to just STAY between 65 and 85. I miss Hawaii
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Same problem here. The shifts I can live with, but when I got in mine this morning I couldn't push in the button on the gear shifter to get the f'er into gear. I also can't just run out 10 min before I want to leave and start her up, because it won't idle when it is cold (I am collecting info to troubleshoot this issue). I have to have my foot on the gas to keep it running for a bit. It is usually ok after I get going and can idle after about 1/4 mile when I get to the end of my development, but takes a few minutes if I'm just sitting at idle in the driveway.
your idle issue is probably related to your IAC. It's probably partially stuck in place until it warms up enough to move and let enough air in. I've got a similar problem where it'll stall out at idle after I get it into gear.

We've got a cold snap in my area, I work nights at the local hospital and the last 2 mornings when I left work, my gas pedal wouldn't move. Guess I got a little moisture in the cable from a storm on Sunday and it freezes the line. Had to kick the pedal to free it up. At least it's an easy fix... the rain/freeze also messed up my TPS (lebaron hood vents). Fortunately they have a lifetime warranty from Pep Boys.

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I started collecting info in a word document. I am going to clean out the TB and IAC, check/replace the TPS. Not sure how to check the MAP sensor, but priced it at O'Rileys for $40 (1 year warranty) or $60 (lifetime warranty). Plus I am going to get around to installing my eddlebrock header and bypass the CAT. After all of that we'll see how she is idling and what kind of gas mileage I'm getting.

Oh, and I have the Lebaron vents as well, but haven't installed them yet. I have a 165 degree thermostat installed and the HEEP won't go over that temp wise even without running the electric fan that is hooked up to a switch. I have a 195 degree thermostat to install, but haven't gotten around to that yet either
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silly cold temperatures. it was about 80* here on sunday.


Woke up to -6* this morning you jackas

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Yay for battery draining. I'll no doubt have to try and hook up a second battery or jump it from another vehicle to get it to start ... then the transmission comes haha. Bah I hate the cold

Some automatic transmissions don't like cold. Has anyone tried putting the transfer case in neutral and the transmision in drive? I do this a lot with manuals in the winter.

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silly cold temperatures. it was about 80* here on sunday.

haha silly californians.....sunday i worked a 12 hour shift outside, -5* straight up and -30* with the windchill and its not even cold yet lol, i'd be sweating my balls off at 80*

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