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Unread 07-15-2011, 10:10 AM   #16
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Ideally I would prefer not to have to tow it to the trails because I don't own a trailer and I don't really have the space for one big enough to fit a jeep on. But than I would have to register it and keep it inspected bla bla bla so I'm not sure yet, I was thinking of building a trailer, any suggestions?

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Unread 07-15-2011, 10:24 AM   #17
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Since you've got the 4.7HO you've already got a decent amount of balls to pull one Jeep. I'd buy a cheap Cherokee and patch the floors if needed, cut the rockers off and weld up boat sides, patch the doors, spray paint it with oil based paint, lift it, big tires, swap a Chrysler 8.25 with 29spline shafts and weld both front and rear axles. Good thing about XJ's is that they seem to be everywhere when you need parts so if you snap an axle shaft so what? Keep money out of it and beat the cock off of it and you'll love it.

Run 35's on it and cut your fenders for whatever you need. A trail rig can look like **** but if it runs better than most with minimal money you're better off. Worry more about your drivetrain holding up rather than how "pretty" it is. Hell...if you get pretty serious weld up a cage and cut off all your sheet metal!
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Unread 07-15-2011, 10:31 AM   #18
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Doogie, have you thought about making a newer sending unit work?

EBay has a few 87-95 units on there right now, not sure how you feel about eBay, but most people on there will take it back if it's bad.
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Unread 07-15-2011, 12:11 PM   #19
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Forgive my ignorance but what do u mean by boat sides?any I know I have the power to haul it it's just a "pita" to haul it when I could drive it, it's a 2-3 hour trip to the nearest off roading trail for me, which is y I would prefer one that isn't totally gone as a road vehicle yet
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Unread 07-15-2011, 12:15 PM   #20
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When you cut the rockers off you replace them with steel...say 2x2 or whatever size you wish. Homemade rock sliders that don't hang as low because they're replacing the rocker panel.

Yeah 2-3 hours would be a haul...but a dedicated trail rig (on a budget) would suck to drive that far anyways getting 8 mpg. If you're going to run 35's (or 33's) and lockers that aren't selectable (to save on coin) it's going to run like **** on the highway (most likely). I'd say to make an awesomely competent trail rig that's street legal you'll be looking to spend $6,000 or so. Where as a dedicated trail rig could cost half of that.
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Unread 07-15-2011, 06:36 PM   #21
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if you like the earlier jeeps get one. They are basically the same. Pick one up that has a good engine and body and build it.
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Unread 07-16-2011, 07:30 AM   #22
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I still have some old parts from my 94, the header panel is cracked is there any way to repair it? The only reason I want to repair it is because it won't stay on properly
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Project "Shamrock": 96 Cherokee country, black, I6 HO, ZJ 242, 4.5 Rustys, 33" Mud terrains
My build: [url]http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f22/96-xj-shamrock-build-1250478/[/url]
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Unread 07-16-2011, 07:33 AM   #23
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I'd get the oldest cheapest XJ you can find.
Part out the interior and other non essentials.

I;d rather pay $500 for a POS XJ that I can beat on, than a 2-3k one that is nice and then feel bad about the 1st dent.
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Unread 07-16-2011, 08:09 AM   #24
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^Exactly!

Overlandchris: check out Pirate 4x4 and go to the XJ section over there. I saw a guy on there recently that picked up an XJ that was T boned and made it into a crooked *** trail rig...at least if you search there you'll see what we're saying when we say "low dollar wheeler". Wheeling something and going big and keeping it street legal costs far more than having something you can throw on a trailer and go.
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Unread 07-16-2011, 10:08 AM   #25
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you could take your '94 or whatever, and bastard pack the rear and bb and thunderbird the front. aim for 3" or so then cut the **** out of your wheel wells and slap on some CL 33s. That's always a good starting point!

weld up your rear axle, run it till it breaks. swap in a 29 spline, weld it, yada, yada. If you want to drive it slap a $250 spartain locker in your d30. or If you don't care weld it too! you'll just hate the cornering on road with a welded front, but as a designated trail rig, do what you want.
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Unread 07-16-2011, 11:47 AM   #26
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I'd say you could make a pretty sweet trail rig (considering that the motor and tranny run) for $2,000 including the XJ purchase price or so and that would be pretty built. If you have rotted floors you don't have to worry about them in a trail rig until your pedaling the ground with your feet.
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Unread 07-16-2011, 02:28 PM   #27
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Yea i was thinking the same thing, my plan is to do a 4.5 inch lift, armir the bottom, throw some tires on it and upgrade the exterior lighting, thays about it. Also I found 2 here in my city that may be cheep I have to go back for the price bit it may need a new trans, I think it's a 94 or 95, if it's cheep is it worth getting a junkyard trans To throw in? The other I think is in worse shape. It does have the i6 HO
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Project "Shamrock": 96 Cherokee country, black, I6 HO, ZJ 242, 4.5 Rustys, 33" Mud terrains
My build: [url]http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f22/96-xj-shamrock-build-1250478/[/url]
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Unread 07-16-2011, 07:11 PM   #28
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'91+ 4.0l are all "H.O."

Depends on how cheap you need it to be. The trans may be $400 or so from a jy. You may try cl for a trans. You should look for people parting out xjs. Keep in mind that you'll need a 91-96 transmission.
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Unread 07-16-2011, 08:08 PM   #29
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It is an automatic, can I swap in a manual? Or is that even more work and money than just swapping the trans itself, also, what should I offer him for it, I plan to try and haggle a bit since there is no set price. I was going to see what he wants for them and go from there I can't spend more than 4-5 hundred for the jeep for this to be practical also in the event I do buy this jeep what is the alphanumeric name of the trans?
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Rusty's 2" Budget boost, It Goes fast
Project "Shamrock": 96 Cherokee country, black, I6 HO, ZJ 242, 4.5 Rustys, 33" Mud terrains
My build: [url]http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f22/96-xj-shamrock-build-1250478/[/url]
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Unread 07-16-2011, 09:05 PM   #30
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one that is 4wd is the answer to this question
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