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post #1 of 15 Old 06-25-2008, 10:49 PM Thread Starter
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AAL or shackle

im wanting to do a simple lift on my xj. looking for 2-3 and im not sure if i want to do 3" aal, or just go the cheap route and do a 2" shackle and spacer. what would some of you recomend cause im putting a set of 235/75/15's on it.

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post #2 of 15 Old 06-26-2008, 12:40 AM
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I'd recommend the aal, it may sag over time, but the combination of a shackle and a spacer will place a lot of stress on the spring pack...just my 2 cents

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in any case go with a long aal.
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post #4 of 15 Old 06-26-2008, 08:29 AM
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in any case go with a long aal.
I agree. The short AAL's tend to give a harsher ride from what I've heard.

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post #5 of 15 Old 06-26-2008, 09:59 AM
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Also the short AAL stress the upper leaf to much at the eye area and they tend to break there when flexing.
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post #6 of 15 Old 06-26-2008, 08:35 PM
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Long aal with 30x9.50x15 tires

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shackles. aal sag. or do a custom bastard pack

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post #8 of 15 Old 06-28-2008, 11:36 PM Thread Starter
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i was reading about the bastard pack and am thinking of doing that with a new set of springs. now if i only do about 2-3" would i need to get longer brake lines, and an drop pitman arm. cause i want to do it as cheap as possible.
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post #9 of 15 Old 06-29-2008, 02:37 PM
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full leaf packs are always best but most expensive. If you wheel it off road, go with longer brake lines. Drop pitman arm you do not need for 2-3" lift, just forget it.
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i wont be doing a lot of wheeling mostly just driving it, just want to do a small lift for the clearance for the slightly bigger tires. thats why i only want to do a 2-3" lift.
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a bastard pack for 2" = AAL?

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im wanting to do a simple lift on my xj. looking for 2-3 and im not sure if i want to do 3" aal, or just go the cheap route and do a 2" shackle and spacer. what would some of you recomend cause im putting a set of 235/75/15's on it.


dont do anything to it. i run those tires with no rub at all
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dont do anything to it. i run those tires with no rub at all

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post #14 of 15 Old 07-01-2008, 10:07 PM
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I say shackle, it's something that you can still benefit from even if you decide to go with full spring pack later. I went with a ProComp full spring pack, got them from 4 Wheel Parts about a year ago for $90 for both.

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Eh, I strongly advise a leaf pack.

1. Your springs are already worn and sagged.
2. AAL's, Shackles, Blocks will all expedite the complete sagging out of your leafs
3. A lift shackle will kill your shackle angle and ruin your ride quality
4. Blocks will increase the occurence of spring wrap and could cause yoke/driveline damage, as well as sag out the leafs
5. AAL's can put stress near the eye of the spring and cause negative arch in the main leaf and potentially break the main leaf.

Here is a wise suggestion.

Get a 3"-3.5" leaf pack. RE's are like $175 each + $70 or more shipping. I do Tuff Country's 3" pack for $159.99 and if you're interested in them I will ship them for free ($319.98 total)

1. PM me and I'll give you a checkout coupon code for the free shipping.
2. Tuff Country's are a decent spring, fairly soft riding, and have a lifetime warranty. I installed a set yesterday actually.
3. UPGRADEABILITY! When you're ready for 4" of lift, you can add a shackle relocation kit. Brianho13 on NAXJA makes a kit for this. http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=956630
4. UPGRADEABILITY! When you're ready to go any higher, a 1-1.5" lift shackle will get you to 5.5-6" and you'll have adjustability in your relocation kit to keep your shackle angle.

This would be a really good way to go about it. Obviously an extra $320 for leafpacks isn't in everyones budget, but in 6 months - 1 year when your add-a-leaf or block has mutilated your factory leaf packs, you'll be wishing you bit the bullet. I know I did.

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