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Unread 02-04-2014, 11:42 PM   #1
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92 xj " the sadness"

History to present. Pucked her up 6 years ago from an export dealer. $2537 after tax tag title and 3 days of negotiations. 31's 3.5" RE lift. I'm 3rd owner. Seminole county sheriff dept then a high Schiller who got stuck once now me.
At purchase 4.0 208k, Arab winch bumper and at rear with tire swing. Np231 d30 turdy5 3.55's. Blew the super strong 35 leaving a stop light in the rain. I was about 1/4 pedal if acceleration. Dropped in another 35 because of the abs. Blew it trying to recover myself from a mall parking spot. Enter 8.25 with Detroit locker. EBay.
1 year later...after breaking the track bar and rear springs at jeeptoberfest, purchased new 6.5" RC lift. On with 33's. Lift failed every trip to the woods. Off with that. Found these forums. Made junkyard lift. 6". Ran like that for next 4.5 years. In that time broke the axles. Replaced with 8.8 and d30 HP out if zj v8. 3.73's. Somewhere along this time the head gasket started leaking into exhaust. No power loss.
2013 august my birthday. Loud boom followed by loud clacking. Followed immediately by seized 4.0. Now at 303k.
Dad owns a machine shop. Been building engines since he invented fire. Pulled motor. Someone had previously done the head gasket wrong and used sand paper to deck with. Rebuilt engine. Now she has 4.9 stroker. Ty forums.
Picked up an 88 xj for $2000. Had rustys 8.5" la kit, 35/14.50/15 pit bulls new. Many other goodies. Needed fuel pump. The owner installed most of lift wrong and no sye.
Now the 92 has the long arm lift rustys steering upgrade and dual stabilizers all from donor.
Found fresh aw4 with Toyota valve body and low stall tc. $150 with 5 miles. Found nv231hd. $100. 2 weeks of trial and errors got it all in with sye. Won't shift on its own. $200 at trans shop fixed that.
Went to junkyard 3 days after break in. Found a rubi. Pulled axles $325 for pair, pulled tcase $200. Sold axles to pay for rebuild. $1800. Swapped in rubi tcase kept other for luck.
Now in process of building full size roof rack, rebuilding intake by losing stock box and replacing snorkel with new one and building new air box on roof rack. Going to put a "collector" in place of stock box. Picked up 8.8 4.10 open diff. And a set if d44's from waggy. Building front 44 now. Not sure which rear to use. Thinking 8.8 with lunchbox. Going to put current axles in the 88. Since the waggy44 has licking hubs I'm thinking a lunchbox there too.
Btw, redid cooling system during engine build...stock radiator, large trans cooler out if mini van, Taurus fan. Did away with a/c and put alt there. Running 136a alt with red top and yellow top. Got 2 mile markers and piaa lights. Replaced all lights with leds except head lights.
Ok advice and jokes. Lol. I'll post pics tomorrow if I can.

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Unread 02-05-2014, 12:54 AM   #2
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Sounds like you've had fun building your jeep! I'm jealous of the cheap rubicon scores.
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Unread 02-05-2014, 05:11 AM   #3
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Love it. Police package?
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Unread 02-05-2014, 11:48 AM   #4
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It was the police package. The spot light was removed and filled in. But the wiring harnesses and rubber floors were still there. The holes for the roll bar a hocker stopper were there. I've used the wiring harnesses.
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Unread 02-05-2014, 12:10 PM   #5
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Unread 02-05-2014, 12:23 PM   #7
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Its hard to get pics of the leds on. But I swapped in the oval tractor trailer lights in place of the front turns, I used amber strips on the mirrors, gutted the stock tail light housings and installed 2 sets of square submersible trailer leds. Used leds inside too. Replaced tag light with regular led bulb, and same with front side markers.
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Unread 02-25-2014, 07:36 PM   #8
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I figured I'd do a write up on my cooling system. Was asked earlier for it.

Picked up a 2 speed ford Taurus fan and a stock efan from a 99 xj.
The 99 fan us an upgrade in that it has better air flow thru better blade design over the earlier fans. I wired this fan with an off road light kit from auto zone. I use a dual power strip from a marine surplus store for hit and grounds. This is wired hot to the battery with an inline fuse from a stereo amp kit.
I use the stock running light switch on dash.
Problem. The cel thru code for an able to communicate with the stock fan. Easy fix. I regrounded the stock fan to the stock fan ground wire.
By using a 40 amp relay this fan really cooks now.

The Taurus fan requires a little more time.
First ... mock up. Removed clutch fan gave it to jeep club for spare. I used a dremel and cookie wheel to cut and trim the plastic housing until I could get it to fit in the cramped space.
For the top I used 1 of the stock holes for the stock fan shroud and had to Fab a bracket for the other side.
For the bottom I trimmed notches in the fan and allowed it to just sit in the xj frame and radiator support.

Wiring ... the Taurus fan has 3 wires. High, low, ground. On mine its black ground, yellow is low speed, purple high speed.
I used 2 40 amp relays for low speed. Just wired them like you would a single relay and combined the accessory out together to the fan.
Same with high side. 2 40's seem to start and run it fine. I use the same relays that are used in the jeep pdc. I usually grab a bunch of these and fuses when I go to junk yards. Nice to have spares.

Switches... like I said earlier I used stock running light switch for the stock efan.
I bought an illuminated on/off/on switch at marine surplus for $8. That way I have 1 switch for the Taurus fan.
I also use a blade fuse box with ground strip from marine surplus inside the jeep. This for all switches and stereo, inverter, cb, etc.

Now with a 4.8 stroker, stock radiator, stock water pump, large trans cooler, I haven't gotten over 210 unless I want to. Just running the Taurus fan in low she stays around 200 on trails and on road. I have only used high once with the secondary fan on.
Bonuses... better HP and MPG without clutch fan. In the mud and water I can turn fans off and save them. More control of performance with this set up. If the secondary fan fails then I have high speed as back up.
Cons... more electrical draw. But with yellow top and 136amp alt can't even tell. Until you hut high speed then you can tell.
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Will post more photos in day light.
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Unread 02-27-2014, 06:31 AM   #11
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When doing a write up, I'd use a photobucket account so you can have decent sized pictures, us old farts have a hard enough time seeing your phone pic thumbnail sized ones. Thinking about losing the ole clutch fan myself this spring, but I plan on wiring it to a sensor to control the speeds, maybe have the low kick on at 150 before getting completely up to operating temps as it doesn't take long from there, this will also help winter warm up times, and wire the secondary high speed into the existing one so both e-fans would start if it reached the 215 point. I'll do a write up as well when I get to that point.
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I used the write up in NAXJA for relocating my alternator. I used the "super simple" method. Lol. He fails to mention the 3 hours of grinding and fitting and grinding and checking foe fitment and some more grinding. Lol ok. With the grinding aside the hardest part was lining up the pulley. On the NAXJA write up XJawgi has a pic with circles on where to drill the a/c mount to bolt the alternator mount to. I ended up bolting the a/c mount back in the jeep and bolted the alt to the already bracket. Then I took c-clamps and held them together while I used the kite string method to determine mt new belt size and routing. Then I purchased the belt and loosely installed it so I could line up the pulleys. A wide sharpy is very handy at this point. Mark several spots to help when you remove the mounts and line up for drilling. Remember this isn't cast iron or harden steel. So drill and grind carefully.
When I bolted the alt bracket to the a/c bracket I used a level to unsure the alt was straight. Ended up shimming to make it level or I could've ground out more.
ok all straight, level, lined up and, installed.
Problem. Since I removed the clutch fan and pulley and bearing, the new belt was rubbing on one if the a/c bracket bolts. And on the nose of the old fan mount. Mt dad owns a machine shop so we ground down the head if the offending bolt and fixed that. Then we simply cut the nose off of the old fan bearing mount. You may have to do these steps if you go with the Taurus fan swap.
Fired up the stroker. Belt squeaked. It squeaks every time you fire it up and the battery needs charged. That's because I'm not using 60% if the alt pulley. The squeak goes away in a minute or two. She charges great and no more mud, rain, dust shorted alt.
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I'll go to library and make the photobucket acct.

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When doing a write up, I'd use a photobucket account so you can have decent sized pictures, us old farts have a hard enough time seeing your phone pic thumbnail sized ones. Thinking about losing the ole clutch fan myself this spring, but I plan on wiring it to a sensor to control the speeds, maybe have the low kick on at 150 before getting completely up to operating temps as it doesn't take long from there, this will also help winter warm up times, and wire the secondary high speed into the existing one so both e-fans would start if it reached the 215 point. I'll do a write up as well when I get to that point.
Well this old fart is looking forward to your write up including big pictures, haha. I would also prefer sensors to control on/ off control and not have to worry about forgetting to switch the fans manually.
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Well this old fart is looking forward to your write up including big pictures, haha. I would also prefer sensors to control on/ off control and not have to worry about forgetting to switch the fans manually.
I was going to go with a controller but we mud and play in deep water here in Florida. So I went with ability to shut them off when submerged to save them.
When I do this to our dd/tow xj I'll install a controller.
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