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post #1 of 14 Old 11-17-2009, 04:20 PM Thread Starter
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2 Door Interior Cages

Ok so a while back I bought a 2 door and had plans to chop it and put a soft top on it, sorta like what you see with some 4runners.

Long story short I had to get rid of the Jeep but I'm thinking of trying it again once I get some money saved up.

What I'm thinking is actually very similar to this:



It belongs to someone on here, it came up randomly on google image while I was looking for something else oddly enough.

Anyway I still have the soft top. It has a metal track that bolts down to the roof that the top slides into then the top buttons down the side, down towards the gate where the long window used to be, and then buttons along the back of the tailgate. I'd like to reuse it, but I'm open to other ideas as well. Making a new soft top wouldn't be too difficult I guess.

Following pics are just quick photoshop hacks lol

Anyway here's what it'll look like when after the cuts:


Here's what I'm thinking for the cage:


If it's not exactly clear what I'm thinking about for the cage I'll try and explain it.

Here's how it'll look with the soft top:



Anyway, just want to see stuff thats similar, hear peoples feedback, ideas, ect.

Also with the cage, I'm looking more to brace the XJ so it doesn't fold like a taco when I take it offroad after I cut it, not something to protect in case of a roll over.



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post #2 of 14 Old 11-17-2009, 05:08 PM
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chech out pirate4x4.com theres lots of stuff like that

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Yeah I'm sure I'll throw this up over there and on NAXJA as well later.


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Working on a 3D render for the cage, I'll post it up when I'm done. Hopefully later today.


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Tried taking a picture of the soft top, but my crappy little webcam just wasn't doing it. Oh well, at least you get to enjoy more of my sweet paint skills.



Basically the thick black line at the very top is a metal track that gets caulked and screwed to the roof. Then the thick black line at the top of the top slides into that. Then it folds down where the grey lines are and snaps to buttons that are riveted down the sides and tailgate. The 2 triangles and the polygon are clear plastic windows, really similar to whats in Wrangler and CJ soft tops.


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Sweet looking top. I have plans for a chop myself. Kinda like what you pictured, but I was going to take the whole roof out (so above drivers head is open) and then make/get a bimini top for that. Hadn't figured out the back yet (not to mention I need to get the jeep first, lol), but I might have to borow your design.

Cage wise (for the tacoing everyone goes on about) I wasn't thinking one right away for $ reasons. I was going to see if I could build in some frame rails above the floor with 2X3 or 2x4 box tubing. I was going to run them along the very edges of the floor, sticking to the sides and using sheet metal to blend it into the bed sides. The would continue all the way to the firewall hopefully. And make a roof cross brace to tie the edges of the door frames together. I think that would provide enough regidity to the whole structure untill I can afford some tubing and have it bent to tie in some more. Ofcourse the doors will be removeable. and I need my tunes so I am going to copy a wrangler setup I saw and turn some ammo boxes into speaker boxes. Waterproof storage too, lol.

So I think your looking good with your ideas!

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perfect depends on how far away you are when you look at it:D
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At first I was thinking I could probably just get like steel tubing bracing to just stretch from side to side in the back, almost like a simple steel box. Just something simple to keep the sides from coming in when it flexes, but the jump from that to a full on cage didn't seem that big.

Friend of mine cut his 2 door off like this and never did a cage. It's pretty ridiculous how much the sides would flex in without one. Definitely won't be doing any cuts until theres some sort of bracing in place.


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Yeah.. I am doing the box tubing because I can cut and weld that myself, but I can't bend DOM. And with my frame I figure it will be a great base for a cage later. I start at school for welding in the spring so I figure sometime during my time there I might beable to use some of their equipment for my own means (for a cage).

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I like the concept here. It's like an XJ fastback.

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did this project ever happen?
Not yet. Long story short I just started a job/career about a month ago and I'm saving up to start it in a few months hopefully.


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Also with the cage, I'm looking more to brace the XJ so it doesn't fold like a taco when I take it offroad after I cut it, not something to protect in case of a roll over.
Why not add some triangulation to the cage while you are caging it? A well designed/properly built cage will help brace the unibody and save you if you ever end up with the rubber side up
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Why not add some triangulation to the cage while you are caging it? A well designed/properly built cage will help brace the unibody and save you if you ever end up with the rubber side up
When I originally planned this I was looking for something really, really basic just for the sake of chopping it asap. When I actually get around to doing this I don't plan on going cheap on it, I'll have a real cage built.


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Here's what I'm thinking for the cage:
Thoughts on the cage:
Not sure if you were talking about an exo cage or not, but regardless, you don't want to end the rear diagonals at the top of the windows. You should plan on securely welding a plate above the rear spring hanger/uni-frame rail on each side of the real load floor, then dropping the diagonals to the plate.

Throw a diagonal across the roof(corner of one A-pillar top to the opposite B-pillar top), or a "V" (corner/center/corner)

Do the front the way you have it drawn. It's a pain to fit the cage up to the fire wall through the dash, but don't cheap out on this. You will regret fitting the cage where you can't pull the dash later. Also makes fitting extensions through the firewall to the front end much easier.

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