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Unread 11-03-2013, 12:32 PM   #76
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If you give up turn radius, you're debilitating your abilities on the trail and off. I realize you're looking for a way to run your stock rims without being tucked in, but here's the other issue. If you put 31x10.50's on your narrow, stock rims, your tread will wear down the center cuz the tread will be arched like this U, which will half-life the tires. A 15x8 rim will lay the tread flat on the road like this L . Full road/tread contact disperses the weight/sq.inch. the tread will last much longer.
Do what you need/want to do, but be aware of these differentials.
I disagree. Stock is around 7 inches wide this is the recommended wheel size for a 10.5 tire. And 15x8 is recommended for 12.5s.
As far as steering stops I disagree. My rear axle with a locker did far more than adding two washers to my steering stops did. That locker makes turns become major ordeals at times. Scrub radius mofos!

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Unread 11-03-2013, 12:47 PM   #77
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I disagree. Stock is around 7 inches wide this is the recommended wheel size for a 10.5 tire. And 15x8 is recommended for 12.5s.
As far as steering stops I disagree. My rear axle with a locker did far more than adding two washers to my steering stops did. That locker makes turns become major ordeals at times. Scrub radius mofos!
Tires of the same category, I.e.31x10.50's are not all the same dimensions. Not all are that tall, not all are that wide. My BFG/AT's did exactly what I described from being on the Exploder rims. In that case, why do I suggest them? The bs'ing of the Exploder rims was better than the stock Jeep rims, and are wider, but not quite a 15x8. The Exploder rims half-lifed that set of 31's, shot at about 20k. It really differs depending on the psi you run in 'em too. I run 'em tight(35-40psi) for better mpg. My current set is doing awesome on my 15x8's.
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Unread 11-03-2013, 12:50 PM   #78
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Tires of the same category, I.e.31x10.50's are not all the same dimensions. Not all are that tall, not all are that wide. My BFG/AT's did exactly what I described from being on the Exploder rims. In that case, why do I suggest them? The bs'ing of the Exploder rims was better than the stock Jeep rims, and are wider, but not quite a 15x8. The Exploder rims half-lifed that set of 31's, shot at about 20k. It really differs depending on the psi you run in 'em too. I run 'em tight(35-40psi) for better mpg. My current set is doing awesome on my 15x8's.
I see your probs I run my swampers at 25 it has a major effect haha.
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Unread 11-03-2013, 01:10 PM   #79
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I see your probs I run my swampers at 25 it has a major effect haha.
Ya, I run the roads more than the trails, so it works. In years to come, I'll retire the XJ to trail duty. Probably 32" MTR's and at that point reduce the psi to 25-30. Perhaps even some steels with bead locks too.
Parker has described his driving habits as being similar to what I've been doing. He's also voiced that he'd like to keep the original style in shape by not trimming. So I don't think a LCOG setup will work for him.
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Unread 11-03-2013, 01:10 PM   #80
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Parker, if you don't mind a little messing around, I used rough country 3" springs and a 5/8 spacer in the front ,and new 3.5 " leaves in the rear. Then just re drilled the hole in front inner fenders and moved the rubber and hard lines down a couple inches. I also used JK rubI shocks front and rear, and wj lower control arms. I was going to put in my Jks adj t bar, but did the hole redrill... No issues. I was running 32x11.5's with 0 rubbing issues, even off-road. I did put in a t-case drop as I got a little bit of vibes. I have built and beat 4 jeeps. And this Xj is now my daily driver... After I wheeled it for a good year. No issues whatsoever ever. It was to nice to beat and make it a full time wheeler like I wanted to. So I sold my truck, and kept this... You don't need to make the thing a tank and throw a ton of cash at it.
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Unread 11-03-2013, 01:21 PM   #81
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Ya, I run the roads more than the trails, so it works. In years to come, I'll retire the XJ to trail duty. Probably 32" MTR's and at that point reduce the psi to 25-30. Perhaps even some steels with bead locks too.
Parker has described his driving habits as being similar to what I've been doing. He's also voiced that he'd like to keep the original style in shape by not trimming. So I don't think a LCOG setup will work for him.
DON'T JUDGE ME! I'm low and getting phat. Possibly going to 36s..... I like it but like I sad not a dd as much any more. My gfs rig would be perfect for him.

Keep In mind I have
$75 in coils
$10 in leafs
10$ steering
$200 in shocks
$190 in tb
$250 in a locker
$ 550 in tires and rims.
1285 total.
Ouch didn't need to do that math out.
My gf rig is
$100 lift and shocks $600 tires
$700 total.
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Unread 11-03-2013, 01:34 PM   #82
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DON'T JUDGE ME! I'm low and getting phat. Possibly going to 36s..... I like it but like I sad not a dd as much any more. My gfs rig would be perfect for him.
Not judging you. We've all got our own level to play at. I like your setup. We all have options we chose from and by knowing each other we can slightly experience what each setup can do. Like me, I've proven to many people that dp may or may not be for them
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Unread 11-03-2013, 01:41 PM   #83
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Not judging you. We've all got our own level to play at. I like your setup. We all have options we chose from and by knowing each other we can slightly experience what each setup can do. Like me, I've proven to many people that dp may or may not be for them
Thanks man its simple. Cheaper than what alot of people would do and it kicks *** for were I wheel. If I am ever around we need to sit down and have a cup of coffee or something together. I will also say this.

It cost more to build a quality low rig than it does to build a quality high rig. You have to be smarter about it and keep it all compact.

Parker Take my advice on this.
RECOVER POINTS ARE NEEDED! I need to get more. I wish I had done them first. That is why I am saying go cheap on your first lift. I wish I had and had done alot of reinforcement and recovery points.
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Unread 11-03-2013, 01:56 PM   #84
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All good points! I happen to have gotten lucky as far as reinforcement. This tow bar and the hitch have reduced my body flex tremendously.

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Unread 11-03-2013, 01:59 PM   #85
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http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f177/.../#post15192783 This is my build take a look I have some good stuff in here.

Another thing is when you do what I do with out alot of unibody reinforcement you will start to get the dreaded unibody cracking. I have it in my doors but that is it thankfully!
Also S8nng8 Take a pop over haha Id love some input from ya!
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Unread 11-03-2013, 05:52 PM   #86
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I'm trying to figure out how to upload a picture from the app
Anyone know?
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Unread 11-03-2013, 06:21 PM   #87
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Unread 11-03-2013, 06:37 PM   #88
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here she is! 2001 Jeep Limited XJ

what kind of idea's are you guys having?
im thinking different fender flares, and tinted windows

possibly remove the trim?
or paint the trim black
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Unread 11-03-2013, 06:42 PM   #89
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here she is! 2001 Jeep Limited XJ

what kind of idea's are you guys having?
im thinking different fender flares, and tinted windows

possibly remove the trim?
or paint the trim black
Go with the advice we have given and enjoy it!
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Unread 11-03-2013, 06:45 PM   #90
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I see LCOG wide stance, CB whip, re-painted fender flares/door trim, black rims with choice tires mounted whites in, and a stroker. What are your plans for lighting and recovery?

Edit: Nah, no stroker.
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