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Unread 04-24-2013, 08:58 AM   #16
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Ya thats the best looking renegade color IMO

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Unread 04-24-2013, 12:24 PM   #17
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I'm not a fan of the Yj renegade but I have seen a few sweet ones. But they were all SOA with full width axles and 38-40" tires

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Unread 04-24-2013, 09:00 PM   #18
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I'd probably suggest the YJ. Coil springs can get a bit more pricey to work on and lift, while leaf springs are a bit less expensive. Less parts to go wrong. Just as capable as a TJ.
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Unread 04-30-2013, 02:54 PM   #19
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I'd probably suggest the YJ. Coil springs can get a bit more pricey to work on and lift, while leaf springs are a bit less expensive. Less parts to go wrong. Just as capable as a TJ.
X2 on this. My YJ's suspension was so simple.
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Unread 04-30-2013, 04:54 PM   #20
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I'd probably suggest the YJ. Coil springs can get a bit more pricey to work on and lift, while leaf springs are a bit less expensive. Less parts to go wrong. Just as capable as a TJ.
I guess that it's a matter of what you know. I had 2 TJ's and did a lot of work on both. Neither was what I'd call "expensive" to work on. I wouldn't touch the suspension of a YJ.
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Unread 04-30-2013, 05:02 PM   #21
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I guess that it's a matter of what you know. I had 2 TJ's and did a lot of work on both. Neither was what I'd call "expensive" to work on. I wouldn't touch the suspension of a YJ.
What isn't expensive to you, might be for a lot of others. Unless you're one of those bargain hunters.

EDIT: But then that raises the same question again. If it is too expensive for you, but not for others, but you bargain it down and it's cheap for you and others, what is expensive in who's eyes?
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Unread 04-30-2013, 05:10 PM   #22
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What isn't expensive to you, might be for a lot of others. Unless you're one of those bargain hunters.

EDIT: But then that raises the same question again. If it is too expensive for you, but not for others, but you bargain it down and it's cheap for you and others, what is expensive in who's eyes?
I won't touch the philosophical ramblings, but when it comes to buying after market parts, I'm about as cheap as it gets. If you don't want to pay for a name brand lift and are willing to go no higher than 3", you can buy appropriate springs and shocks to lift up to 3" for under $300.
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Unread 04-30-2013, 05:13 PM   #23
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I won't touch the philosophical ramblings, but when it comes to buying after market parts, I'm about as cheap as it gets. If you don't want to pay for a name brand lift and are willing to go no higher than 3", you can buy appropriate springs and shocks to lift up to 3" for under $300.
That right there is worthy of the title "cheap ***". I've tried scouring CL for parts, problem is they're all there when I have no money, then payday arrives and there's no parts to be found on CL. That's my strategy for cheap parts.
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Unread 04-30-2013, 07:32 PM   #24
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I wouldn't touch the suspension of a YJ.
And why is that? Easier to work on, less parts to fail, easier axle swap, easier to lift, so on and so forth.
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Unread 04-30-2013, 07:51 PM   #25
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I don't want to start a war but I'm looking to get my first wrangler but don't know much about them. What would be the pros/cons of YJ's vs TJ's?
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Unread 04-30-2013, 09:06 PM   #26
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I vote TJ

Had one last year and it was a blast, I'm sure the same thing could be said about a YJ but the square head lights just grind my gears.

Hell just take a few of each for a test drive and see how they feel.
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Unread 04-30-2013, 09:13 PM   #27
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I'm seeing a lot of yj votes and for good reasons. But the best reason is everyone has more fun in the yj section.
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Unread 04-30-2013, 09:22 PM   #28
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I want a jk rubicon but the prices are likely too high for me. I've never been wheeling but would love to and I know I wouldn't need a rubicon right off the bat but I would rather have it not need it rather than the other way around. I don't have a preference on square vs round lights but I do like the more rugged interior on the yj. I'm not very mechanically inclined so I don't want something I'd have to dump a load of money into. I also want as close to stock as I can get so I know what I'm working with
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Unread 04-30-2013, 09:25 PM   #29
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rubicon - tj
rugged - yj
headlights - no vote
less mechanically inclined - tj
cheaper - yj


you sir are at an even split
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Unread 04-30-2013, 09:26 PM   #30
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I'm seeing a lot of yj votes and for good reasons. But the best reason is everyone has more fun in the yj section.
till we all get banned
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RC vs BDS
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