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Unread 02-04-2014, 07:08 PM   #1
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Wonder if I made a mistake

We finally picked up the jeep its a 97 Wrangler with a soft top and soft upper doors with no carpet of course.

Maybe its a little buyers remorse but I think this may not be the best vehicle to send to Virginia for my son. Yes, I know it sounds great to have this vehicle in the summer at the beach but this jeep has no a/c and my concern is how are the soft uppers going to fair during the winter?

Also, I now realize how noisy these things are so its my concern after a summer and a hard freeze the kid is going to really hate having to use this everyday.

Looking for feedback on how soft tops and soft uppers fair in colder climates.

Thanks,

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Unread 02-04-2014, 07:57 PM   #2
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Can't comment on the soft uppers as I have full doors, but I don't find the soft top on my 98 as a problem in the cold. Drove the Jeep to work today and the hi here was 23 .

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Unread 02-04-2014, 08:38 PM   #3
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I haven't personally has a soft top with soft upper on a Jeep in winter but up here in MN it is surprising the amount of TJs I have seen with that set up in the middle of winter, there are even a fair amount of JKs with the soft tops on in the winter. I do know that it is hard on the top but depending upon the amount of snowfall and where the Jeep is stored I guess you can make it through the winter with a soft top without too much issue. Be careful with the windows in the cold weather, the plastic windows can get very brittle when the temps get into the negatives.
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Unread 02-04-2014, 10:14 PM   #4
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If you are worried about the soft upper half doors you can always pick up a set of full doors for the winter and just swap them out. It won't be as noisy in the winter cause the top will tighten up more in the cold. Also with the heat on it will create some positive pressure inside which will assist in keeping the top from making as much noise. None-the-less, it is a jeep and it will never be "quiet" whether a soft or hard top. It is one of the trade-offs we make to drive a jeep.

If you son is anything like most kids in college he will care less about any noise and just turn up the radio.
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Unread 02-05-2014, 05:03 AM   #5
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My soft uppers have been through two winters and haven't failed me yet.
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Unread 02-05-2014, 05:21 AM   #6
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Having a jeep is a give and take relationship. You have to take the good with the bad. When I first got a 90wrangler soft top and upper doors I had no problems. The heater is a beast so I wouldn't worry about the winters.
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Unread 02-05-2014, 05:58 AM   #7
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Your son's gonna love that thing.
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Unread 02-05-2014, 06:11 AM   #8
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We finally picked up the jeep its a 97 Wrangler with a soft top and soft upper doors with no carpet of course.

Maybe its a little buyers remorse but I think this may not be the best vehicle to send to Virginia for my son. Yes, I know it sounds great to have this vehicle in the summer at the beach but this jeep has no a/c and my concern is how are the soft uppers going to fair during the winter?

Also, I now realize how noisy these things are so its my concern after a summer and a hard freeze the kid is going to really hate having to use this everyday.

Looking for feedback on how soft tops and soft uppers fair in colder climates.

Thanks,
He will like it better than you, for sure. Who needs AC? I hardly ever use mine even down here in south Texas where it's over 100 most of the time in the summer. When I was in my 20 and 30ies my CJ had no AC and I didn't care. The heater in my JEEPS work very well, better than AC. In fact, my kids call the heater in my TJ a blast furnace. After a ride to school you can smell melting sneakers in the cab. There is only one down fall to JEEPS, if you want to call it that, MPG's aren't so great.

Got my first CJ brand new in 1980. Loved it soo much that I bought another one in 93 and yet another in 01. I have only driven JEEPS, and nothing else for the past 34 years.
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Unread 02-05-2014, 06:18 AM   #9
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Start shopping around for full hard doors....you can usually find a set for around $600.00. The soft uppers are adequate too keep you warm enough, especially with the heat that a TJ can put out....the big problem will be the amount of water that will run down the inside of the door and inevitably rust the frame in the upper's skin, the inside of the half door and the floor board. Who needs a/c when the top is off? You are already too cool because you are driving a Jeep!
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Unread 02-05-2014, 06:27 AM   #10
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I never had an issue with my soft uppers, the only complaints I had were in the rain during the summer or when using a toll booth/drive through. I have the upper sliders that they make for the half doors now and like them.

FYI. I've always had soft tops and I live in the northeast. None of my jeeps have had Ac either.

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Unread 02-05-2014, 06:59 AM   #11
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WOW, thanks everyone I consider all the information very informative. Very much impressed on how these items fair in the cold. I will look around here for some solid doors however I am running on a short timeline as the Jeep is going to be trailered to him on Feb 14 if this is something we mover forward with. Thanks again.
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Unread 02-05-2014, 07:14 AM   #12
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WOW, thanks everyone I consider all the information very informative. Very much impressed on how these items fair in the cold. I will look around here for some solid doors however I am running on a short timeline as the Jeep is going to be trailered to him on Feb 14 if this is something we mover forward with. Thanks again.
I wouldn't. Like someone just said "the big problem will be the amount of water that will run down the inside of the door and inevitably rust the frame in the upper's skin" I prefer soft sides. Besides its more of a PITA to keep them stored when they are off the JEEP.
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Unread 02-05-2014, 07:26 AM   #13
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I'd leave it as is. A quality top and door uppers work just fine in the cold. The OE material is a good example of a quality top.
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Unread 02-05-2014, 08:51 AM   #14
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As others have said, most all of your concerns are a non-issue with a quality top. I prefer the half doors as well. It was never an issue with mine in the winter.

The only thing I didn't like was the lack of A/C when I went to work in the summer time. Your son, like me, will probably adapt to that so it's not really an issue either. Having a Jeep in college and all that entails will trump the lack of A/C any day of the week.

I started driving the family jeep the day I turned 16 and took it to college. Wouldn't trade those days for anything.
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Unread 02-05-2014, 10:24 AM   #15
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I wouldn't. Like someone just said "the big problem will be the amount of water that will run down the inside of the door and inevitably rust the frame in the upper's skin" I prefer soft sides. Besides it’s more of a PITA to keep them stored when they are off the JEEP.
I have both....but my soft uppers were on soft half lowers....full cloth door but two piece. Still adequate for comfort in the winter except on extremely cold mornings before warming up the engine. The uppers would flap open a bit at the top and took some getting used to.....I shopped for full doors so I could leave it outside to make room in the garage, but yes, they are a pain to store....but everything jeep related that is not in use is a pain to store and takes up valuable garage space. What I liked the most about soft uppers, the ability to take them off and carry them in the back just in case I hit some unexpected rain.

If you do decide on hard doors....here is one place to check....probably not the cheapest, but they probably have something.

http://www.autoquestjeeps.com/jeep-hard-tops-doors/




Or you could always let your son take care of it later....since it will be "his" jeep and "he" should start making it his own.

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