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post #76 of 636 Old 02-14-2009, 10:59 AM
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post #77 of 636 Old 02-14-2009, 11:20 AM
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you said you had more wreck pix,,,please post more,,,
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post #78 of 636 Old 02-14-2009, 12:49 PM
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I still can't fathom why people install lift kits, big tires, remove sway bars, retain stock brakes, and expect to remain safe while in their Jeep. In my opinion an aftermarket roll cage should be one of the first things installed. Sure it costs some money,,, but what's your life worth? More importantly, what value do you place on the life of your passengers. We ALL have (at one point in time) allowed a passenger to ride with us during a hard trail. It only takes one flop, even mild, to ruin someone's life.
A guy from town was recently out "light wheeling" at a local area we have. He was driving on a ledge when the soft soil gave way. This was NOT extreme rock crawling in any way shape of form. This was basically crusing some pasture land. His Jeep flipped over the side and landed on the top, thus making the engine stick at WOT. The Jeep then righted itself, and ran up the bank again, rolling a second time.
Needless to say he was air-lifted to the hospital,,,,where he spent about 2 days in ICU.
He was wearing a seat-belt, but got beat-to-hell by all the unsecured "stuff" in the Jeep. He's lucky to be alive.

It's easy for us Jeepers to see a pic of a cool lift, or awesome bumpers and think " I gotta have that! I gotta have that! "

It's just as important for us Jeepers to see horrible pics of wrecks and think " I gotta prevent that! I gotta prevent that! "

I'm only 33, but I've been to six (6) funerals of friends who died because they weren't wearing seatbelts.
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post #79 of 636 Old 02-14-2009, 01:20 PM
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yeah, me too. that way, when you have to make a hard manuever or get hit and fly out of your seat, you can lose complete control of the vehicle, instead of being held in the drivers seat by the seat belt.

you know...that way, you can take even more unsuspecting people to your grave with you.
i was in a wreck & flippped over in a creek off a highway. had i been wearing a seatbelt i would have drowned. barely got out without one. i'm not saying i'm against seatbelts, in some instances they hinder rather than help & i think it should be the individuals choice whether or not to wear one.

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I've been researching and saving pictures from various TJ/CJ/YJ wrecks for years.
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Cripes @ those pictures. Glad to know the rear passenger area holds up so well (nephew rides back there). Now, I don't feel crappy for ordering the Rock Hard cage last week instead of ordering a lift and tires.
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WOW! Excellent thread subject. What happened to that Jeep? I've been an absolute seatbelt believer since I first heard of them in 60-61. At the ripe old age of 15, I made my dad install seatbelts into his brand-new '62 Oldsmobile Starfire before we took it on a family trip from California to Texas.
Tell us more, what happened!

62 Chevy Impala here. It had seat belts installed even before it saw our driveway.

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i was in a wreck & flippped over in a creek off a highway. had i been wearing a seatbelt i would have drowned. barely got out without one. i'm not saying i'm against seatbelts, in some instances they hinder rather than help & i think it should be the individuals choice whether or not to wear one.
I've heard lots of stories about people living because of not wearing the seat belt. My friend got thrown out throw the windshield and got up and walked away. He was lucky because the engine was sitting in the drives seat. He would have been dead wearing a seat belt.

When I was in the fire dept years ago one accident we responded too a lady went off the road into a group of trees. She didn't have a seat belt on and was some how thrown into the passenger seat. The drivers side of the car was pushed in 2-3 feet from hitting a tree, she likely would have been dead wearing the belt too. But she did need to be cut out of the car with the jaws of life.

Accidents that people are wearing the seat belt is it impossible to say what would have happened without it.

I'm pretty bad at not wearing my belt around town, if I'm offroading, or on the highway it is usually on. In most cases I'd say you are better off having the seat belt on, than taking a chance without it.
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we lost a jeeping buddy or two over the years while wheeling with no seatbelt. the two i am thinking of were not teenagers but closer to retirement age....

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Local dealer warned me the stock roll bar and windshield frame on the TJs is a major problem in roll overs. Its somthing they have improved on the newer JK.
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Thanks to JF for not deleting or switching to GD because they are dead.I think tihngs like this are great to remind people and bring up safety that most people forget,especially with kids(teenagers).
Well not all of us teens dont wear our seatbelts....... Just a stereotype.

I dont know a single kid who has thought twice about wearing a seatbelt in my wrangler...... i think it intimidates alot of kids

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Local dealer warned me the stock roll bar and windshield frame on the TJs is a major problem in roll overs. Its somthing they have improved on the newer JK.
What is the difference about them? To me, the JK's roll cage layout looks the same as the TJ's.

Not disputing your word. I would like to see where the improvements were made and how the two are different.

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i want those springs ... does that make me a bad person ?
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Here's a prime example of having a well built rig without a full roll cage.
Yet, He did an "extreme course" without thinking about his safety of a full roll cage.
If he had a full roll cage it would have been a lot safer for him & I am sure he was telling himself
"Man I should have had a full roll cage or this would have never happened"
Well, He did think of using a helmet and his stinger helped a lot on the roll.
You will also notice that the radiator hoop and flat fenders did its job very well in
protecting the hood and the sides of the jeep.







Grrrr... I never understood why offroaders spend big bucks on all their mods on their rigs and skimp out or wait on adding full roll cage.

Note to all ...If you build your rig for offroading ...Please, Think about your well being and your passangers, Build a Roll Cage to protect your lives.
Big Lifts, Big Tires, Lockers and others won't save your life if you roll your rig.
The Roll Cage that you Invest in...WILL. ( we hope so ) Think Smart and Invest in a Cage before its to late. And, We sure do not ever want to see or hear about those incidents because, they did not have one.

Invest in a full roll cage!

So everyone will be informed, this is an advanced amateur offroader on those pictures. This is just an example about a full roll cage.

But the main part about this OP is using your Seat Belt!
So, Be Safe & Buckle Up

By the way...I got a full 6 point welded roll cage along with a front stinger, radiator hoop and flat fenders so, I am fully protected.

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"Man I should have had a full roll cage or this would have never happened"
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Invest in a full roll cage!
Excellent photo sequence!!! You can see exactly how the stock pillars deform in slow motion.

The stock cage holds up fairly well after a once over at slow speeds, but after that the windshield fully collapses in the passenger compartment. A front roll cage is something Jeep overlooked on TJs and is something that should be addressed


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