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post #46 of 636 Old 02-13-2009, 02:57 PM
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If you look at all the pic the seat backs are all in good shape.I feel a little better about that point.
Yup. The B and C pillars aren't the weak point. The C-pillars on the family cage can collapse toward each other tho, but they still keep a shell around the passengers for the most part.



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post #47 of 636 Old 02-13-2009, 04:39 PM
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Ive seen more then enough car crashes and done full extrications on many a car. Typically a car tends to as previously stated crush around the cab compartment with the exception of side impact though even then the cab holds up fairly well...

A bigger problem with a car crash that causes damages like the ones being shown is that regardless of how you roll cage holds up there is still momentum at play. If you are traveling at 60 and the vehicle comes to a dead stop neither your head or internal organs come to that stop. Most car crash deaths are caused by two things. People not wearing seatbelts being number one and Neck back or internal injuries.

Look at the crash of Dale Earnhardt Sr. crash looks simple on TV but he ended up dying because of an insufficiently restrained head. Like i stated before, your not safe no matter what role cage or seatbelts you put in.
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i think it should be left up to the individual whether or not they want to wear a seatbelt.

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i think it should be left up to the individual whether or not they want to wear a seatbelt.
Based on the pictures I have seen....

I choose to wear a seat belt....

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these pics make my stomach turn...
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i think it should be left up to the individual whether or not they want to wear a seatbelt.
You're right, it is up to the individual. But when they are in MY ride, everyone must be strapped in. Had a co-worker who took his buddy to Mexico on a fishing trip and flipped the truck when the boat trailer got sideways on a mountain curve, killing the friend. Co-workier was buckled in, his buddy was not. He had a real hard time overcoming that.
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Ive seen more then enough car crashes and done full extrications on many a car.

Like i stated before, your not safe no matter what role cage or seatbelts you put in.

Wow did you learn all that at your one day a week volunteer drill night?

so your never safe why bother then?

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i think it should be left up to the individual whether or not they want to wear a seatbelt.
As do I under the following conditions-

You have an insurance bond in place to support you for medically for the rest of your life in the event you become a vegetable, require 24 hour care and someone to swap out your colostomy bag.

You have no living relatives and no friends to mourn your absence or be bothered by seeing you as a vegetable.

If you do have those friends and relatives, you need a signed document from them saying they don't care that much and it's going to be alright with them if you become a vegetable.

You insurance policy must also have provisions to cover your future, present and current debts in the event of your being permanently disabled and at no point will you become a burden to society in general.

As long as you meet all those provisions, then by all means, make wearing a belt your choice.
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I always wear my seatbelt. In fact, sometimes I think we should all be wearing helmets, 4-pt harnesses and a HANS device when driving over 60mph...


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It does make one think. The window frame shows it is a weak link.

As far as seatbelts are concerned we in Canada had to go to legislated seatbelt use years ago. I fought it at first but todays crowded hiways and high speeds really make it necessary. With airbags and belts people routinely walk away from accidents that killed 30 years ago.

I am guilty of carrying lots of unsecured junk in my Jeep when on sales trips. Time to get serious about safety.

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It may sound contradictory as a teenager but I always wear my seatbelt! Some of my friends aren't fond of them, but I always yell at them to put theirs on
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its the law here in nj though, but i know enough kids in enough accidents who wore seatbelts to prove it to me... topless and doorless with no belt is just gutsy though haha

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seatbelts equals population control. i make sure my family is buckled up, otherwise its not my problem


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i think it should be left up to the individual whether or not they want to wear a seatbelt.
yeah, me too. that way, when you have to make a hard manuever or get hit and fly out of your seat, you can lose complete control of the vehicle, instead of being held in the drivers seat by the seat belt.

you know...that way, you can take even more unsuspecting people to your grave with you.

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