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Unread 07-20-2008, 02:26 PM   #1
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Why do Wranglers even have D35 as stock??

Does anybody actually know why the Dana 35 is/was used in Wranglers? Is there some reason, besides money, that it was chosen as the best standard rear axle? Did they not already have a few D44's layin' around? Does Chrysler not know that people like us exist?

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Unread 07-20-2008, 02:27 PM   #2
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money is a pretty influential reason.
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Unread 07-20-2008, 02:58 PM   #3
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I always wondered that same question. When I bought my 02 Sport new the d44 option was only like $280.00 over the stock D35.
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Unread 07-20-2008, 06:22 PM   #4
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For the average consumer that buys a Jeep, a D35 is sufficient for the daily driven vehicle. The D35 can also hold up to light trails while being mindful of the skinny.

It's if / when the bug hits and the Jeep rises and the trails get more technical that the D35 becomes the weak link.
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Unread 07-20-2008, 06:25 PM   #5
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Big Daddy is onto it there.
It's the same reason they come with skinny street treaded tires and a low (for "our" standrds) stance.
When someone mods a vehicle they shouldn't complain that the stock parts don't hold up to the new performance minded ones.
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Unread 07-20-2008, 08:27 PM   #6
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Maybe so, but that doesn't make me want to pee in Chrysler's porridge any less.
Besides, I always thought of the Wrangler and its predecessors as performance minded vehicles by nature.
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Unread 07-20-2008, 08:34 PM   #7
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I like my D35 i run 33x12.50x15's 4:88 gears and beat it ever chance i get other then busted diff covers it has held up to ever rock i try to put through it. Now before anyone says a dang thing i'll add i have heard many talk about how they have broken thier d35's with very little effort and i dont know if im just lucky or maybe got the odd ball d35 tht actualy works good. All im saying is my personal experience has been great and yess if and when it breaks from a rock going through it i plan on going to my D60 front and rear end setting in the garage. Sorry if this seems like a rant i just wanted to express my thoughts.
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Unread 07-20-2008, 08:41 PM   #8
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The Dana 35 was a cruel joke.
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Unread 07-20-2008, 09:23 PM   #9
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I like my D35 i run 33x12.50x15's 4:88 gears and beat it ever chance i get other then busted diff covers it has held up to ever rock i try to put through it. Now before anyone says a dang thing i'll add i have heard many talk about how they have broken thier d35's with very little effort and i dont know if im just lucky or maybe got the odd ball d35 tht actualy works good.
I'm not knockin' ya. I have 35s with 4.56 and been running my stock D35 for 4 years of wheelin'. Before it was locked (lunchbox aussie), I busted the rear spider gears twice. Since it's been locked, I haven't had any problems with it. All that being said, I'm upgrading to an 8.8 next weekend.

I believe it all depends on the driver's penchant for the throttle: gun it or be technical.
Sometimes, however, the only way to get over an obstacle is the skinny - and that's when you don't want to be worrying about your axles blowing up.
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Unread 07-21-2008, 11:47 AM   #10
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For the average consumer that buys a Jeep, a D35 is sufficient for the daily driven vehicle. The D35 can also hold up to light trails while being mindful of the skinny.

It's if / when the bug hits and the Jeep rises and the trails get more technical that the D35 becomes the weak link.
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The M35, although not stronger compared to an 8.8 or 44, is sufficient for most Jeep drivers. I run on a M35 and it has treated me well. My Jeep is my DD and I wanted a vehicle that was capable both on and off Pacific Northwest roads. I run 33"x10.5 BFG MTs on stock alloy wheels to keep the weight down while having the clearance benefits that a 33" tire gives. For slight traction improvements, I've installed a limited slip in the M35 and changed the shafts to a 27 spline chromoly for a slight increase in strength. I also have an autotrans, which is supposed easier on a diff.

Now if I were to do rocks or lift tires, I would definitely lock my rear. This would change my build to potentially exchanging the M35 to a Dana44, 8.8, or even a 30 spline Super35.
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Unread 07-21-2008, 11:58 AM   #11
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MLJeeper, thanks for the quote!
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Unread 07-21-2008, 10:06 PM   #12
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Yeah, thats a pretty good one.

As for my question, I feel like the D35 is a weak link with a fairly obvious solution for Chrysler. After all, maybe one person will buy a Jeep, and never wheel it or build on it from stock. BUT then that person goes and sells it to one of US. So then you have a Jeep with, like, 130K miles on its stock D35. OH BOY, what a great platform!(sarcasm)
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Unread 07-22-2008, 11:04 AM   #13
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How can you identify what axle is on a Jeep?
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Unread 07-22-2008, 11:21 AM   #14
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Not only chrysler, AMC used the 35 and before that the AMC 20. Actually, the AMC 20 is a pretty strong unit, but the 2 piece axles suck, replace them with one piece axles and you have a pretty strong rear.
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