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post #1 of 25 Old 10-05-2013, 05:02 PM Thread Starter
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What Winch to get

Looking for a winch. I by no means need the top of the line. Looking for something dependable, user friendly, easy to install. By the way is synthetic cable better than steel? I have not yet progressed to major offroading

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post #2 of 25 Old 10-05-2013, 05:24 PM
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Tmax is what i use. No complaints. Strength is same as other major brands.
Synthetic line is lighter and more flexible. Has its benefits.
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post #3 of 25 Old 10-05-2013, 05:38 PM
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My harbor freight winch has served me well. there priced very cheep, and for about $20 you can buy a 2 year warranty. I'm sure others will chime in about the "badland" harbor freight winches.

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What kind of wheeling do you do? Who do you wheel with and how capable are their jeeps of recovering you? Do you explore on your own? What's your budget? what kind of bumper?

You're going to hear answers from any cheap $300 winch to a top of line $1500 dollar, you'll hear steal only and synthetic rope only. Bottom line is you can get a lot closer to the right answer by taking a hard look at the questions above.

I do wheel harder trails and travel with very capable jeeps, meaning we can and do need good winches on multiple vehicles. I run synthetic on Warn or SuperWinch on my jeeps.

Let the games begin!

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Winching Needs

I mostly wheel and explore on my own but would like to find some buddies and become more adventurous. Front bumper is stock. My budget is adequate but not unlimited. Am also interested in SAR.
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I mostly wheel and explore on my own but would like to find some buddies and become more adventurous. Front bumper is stock. My budget is adequate but not unlimited. Am also interested in SAR.
These really help narrow the choices down. You need equipment that will perform every time in adverse conditions when someone's life, even your own may depend on it. Don't go cheap. Learn a little about the relationship between amp draw and pulling power, line speed, free and under load. Also max rating with only one wrap on the drum and the effects of having more wraps.

some 8000# rated winches will out pull a 10,000# winch when there are 4 wraps(layers) of cable on the drum.

Even though I run synthetic, because of the adverse conditions of SAR I'd probably lean towards using steal as it can take more abuse and still perform.

For these applications I'd look at the Warn M8000, $600 and go up. I've never owned one, but the M8000 seems to have good reputation. I do have a Warn 9.5cti, it has very fast line speeds, an incredible 7400# pull at 4 wraps, thermal overload sensors and thermal warning LED. $1200

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[QUOTE="Filthy-Beast"] These really help narrow the choices down. You need equipment that will perform every time in adverse conditions when someone's life, even your own may depend on it. Don't go cheap. Learn a little about the relationship between amp draw and pulling power, line speed, free and under load. Also max rating with only one wrap on the drum and the effects of having more wraps. some 8000# rated winches will out pull a 10,000# winch when there are 4 wraps(layers) of cable on the drum. Even though I run synthetic, because of the adverse conditions of SAR I'd probably lean towards using steal as it can take more abuse and still perform. For these applications I'd look at the Warn M8000, $600 and go up. I've never owned one, but the M8000 seems to have good reputation. I do have a Warn 9.5cti, it has very fast line speeds, an incredible 7400# pull at 4 wraps, thermal overload sensors and thermal warning LED. $1200[/QUOTE

I run that same warn winch. It has pulled me and my friends out of unbelievable situations. I never go off road alone and needed the winch more times than I can remember. I use synthetic rope. While on the subject does anyone know if you can use a snatch block with synthetic rope?
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post #8 of 25 Old 10-06-2013, 07:49 AM
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How about a used Warn? I see quite a few on CL in near new condition for 2/3 the cost of new.

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post #9 of 25 Old 10-06-2013, 08:11 AM
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i got a warn 9.5Ti with syn rope on CL for $500. looked for about 6 weeks and found a steal. they are out there
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We are all for synthetic cable. Not biased or anything of course.

Synthetic cable is lighter, safer, and depending on which line you choose can be stronger than steel cable for a given diameter. Working with steel cable can be a bit nerve racking. It requires weighting in order to lower risk in the event of a failure. It's tough to handle and as it ages wearing gloves to handle it is necessary.

We run a superwinch. It's been absolutely flawless. Can't go wrong with Warn either. Some of the other brands we've encounted on the trail do work, but they just don't sound as smooth, pull as strong for comparable rating and are typically slower.

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Yes you can use a snatch block with synthetic line, just be careful that it is in the pulley.

I too love synthetic but recommended steal because of the Search and Rescue part of the jcryder's needs. Thinking of the need to pull debris or other situations that would drag a synthetic line across sharp edges where the sheath wound be of little help.

jcryder if you're serious about SAR get a ham radio license, take SAR courses and get certified.

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Bang for the buck the XRC8 is hard to beat, I run a XRC8 Comp (comes with rope instead of steel line) I have seen both a rope and steel line break in person, I will probably never run a steel winch line again !

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post #13 of 25 Old 10-08-2013, 09:15 PM
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To the OP like the add says Go Warn my M8000 is over 20 years old and still working like a champ

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First choice Warn M8000. Had one on my first YJ and ill prob get another.

Second XRC8 comp as Tom has.
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Yes you can use a snatch block with synthetic line, just be careful that it is in the pulley.

I too love synthetic but recommended steal because of the Search and Rescue part of the jcryder's needs. Thinking of the need to pull debris or other situations that would drag a synthetic line across sharp edges where the sheath wound be of little help.

jcryder if you're serious about SAR get a ham radio license, take SAR courses and get certified.
A fully covered line would be a great compromise. Safety and durability in one. Or, a dyneema chafe sleeve in lieu of nylon. Dyneema and steel's chafe resistance is actually closer than one may believe.

In particular we use a EPi9.0. I don't think I mentioned that earlier. Now discontinued, but I believe it has a modern equivalent.

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