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Unread 10-22-2013, 11:42 AM   #1
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Welder

This is off topic but I'm in the market for a welder. Never purchased anything like this and I need help. I could weld pretty good but it was years ago. I been looking at a Hobart 190 vs Lincoln 180 both are 230-240 volt and close to 600$ range give or take... I'll be using the new tool mainly on my 98 tj welding on the frame (new mounts), roll cage, axle, ext... Will the 180 or 190 be big enough or should I go bigger? Open to recommendations! I will be running gas on what ever I decide..

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Unread 10-22-2013, 11:45 AM   #2
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What's the material and thickness you're trying to weld?
If it's the frame, yes either will be overkill. You could burn through a stock frame with a 140EZ, I've done it.

I've even used the 140 to burn mounts onto my 8.8. It's been 4 years on that axle and not as much as a crack on any weld. It just takes some know-how.
For the record I'm not suggesting a 140 over any 220v welder.
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Unread 10-22-2013, 12:14 PM   #3
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By just looking at my frame... its bout an 1/8 is my closest guess on the thickness... Maybe a tad smaller... I have to replace sm mounts on the rear axle that literal ripped off the frame..
This is just my excuse to the woman to buy a good welder!
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Unread 10-22-2013, 12:41 PM   #4
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I'm partial to Hobart personally, it's a Miller machine in disguise it even says "Miller" on the guns.
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Unread 10-22-2013, 12:48 PM   #5
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I have always been partial to Miller stuff, So I would go with the hobart. That is what I use to weld all my parts.
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Unread 10-22-2013, 12:52 PM   #6
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Thanks fellas! I think Ima go with the 190... Seems to be able to do what I need plus the option to do more.
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Unread 10-23-2013, 09:19 AM   #7
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Another one for Hobart. Love my ironman 230 with a spoolgun
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Another one for Hobart. Love my ironman 230 with a spoolgun
X2....don't have the spool gun yet.
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Unread 10-23-2013, 07:30 PM   #9
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OK guys with the iron man welder what is your advice on the 190 handler vs 230 iron man given what I'm gonna be welding on? I want the most bang for my buck but not "over do it". This will be my very 1st personal welder purchase.
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Unread 10-24-2013, 11:19 AM   #10
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Buy the biggest machine you can afford.
There is no such thing as "over-doing" when purchasing a welder.
Especially if this is something you see yourself getting into.
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Buy the biggest machine you can afford.
There is no such thing as "over-doing" when purchasing a welder.
Especially if this is something you see yourself getting into.
this, buy the bigger one.

From what i hear the hobart has alumimum parts where the miller has copper/brass. The hobart is a good quailty machine. i currently own a ,iller 180 and love it.
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this, buy the bigger one.

From what i hear the hobart has alumimum parts where the miller has copper/brass. The hobart is a good quailty machine. i currently own a ,iller 180 and love it.
Not entirely true, my HH140EZ is all copper inside.
My buddy just bought a Hobart recently also that was all copper.
I think that myth comes from big box stores like Home Depot dumbing down their models.
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OK guys with the iron man welder what is your advice on the 190 handler vs 230 iron man given what I'm gonna be welding on? I want the most bang for my buck but not "over do it". This will be my very 1st personal welder purchase.
I absolutely love my 230. I had a MM 175 prior to this machine...no comparison.
I can weld 16ga sheet metal or 1/2" plate with ease, it lays a beautiful bead, it wets out really nice with very little splatter.

I would pick the 230 over the 190 all day long for my application.

The 230 is not a portable machine like the 190 so if you need to carry it to other locations on occasion then get the 190.
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