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Unread 08-23-2013, 07:58 AM   #1
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trade or wait for diesel?

Hey I'm just curious for some opinions!

I have a 2011 jk auto. I really love it but to be honest I want a stickm
I'm wondering if I should trade it for a 2013/2014 with manual, benefit from the new engine aswell as the manual I want so bad. Or should I wait to trade.it.in on a 2016 diesel when they come out? As I am a huge diesel fan and will definately want that just don't.k.ow if my 2011 will be worth too much.by then.
Any input appreciated thanks!!

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Unread 08-23-2013, 08:34 AM   #2
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The word that a diesel is coming for 2016 is just a rumor and nothing is official from Jeep. There's been diesel rumors for years. I'll believe it when I see it. Even if it is an option then, it'll be pricey. If the Grand Cherokee diesel is $4500 extra now, I could see it being $5000 or more on the Wrangler in 2-3 years. And it's a long time to wait. I'd get the Jeep you want now, and worry about what happens in the future, later.
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Unread 08-23-2013, 09:03 AM   #3
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Get one now, you could be waiting forever for a factory diesel or a V8.
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Unread 08-23-2013, 09:16 AM   #4
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how come they can do a GC diesel but not wranglers?
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Unread 08-23-2013, 09:27 AM   #5
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how come they can do a GC diesel but not wranglers?
exactly. i have been waiting for a diesel wrangler forever. its even more annoying to watch videos of tj's overseas with stock diesel. i will do a 4bt swap on my tj.... If the 4.0 ever dies
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Unread 08-23-2013, 09:57 AM   #6
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Your government regulations protecting you from yourself. C.A.F.E., emissions standards.
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Unread 08-23-2013, 10:01 AM   #7
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how come they can do a GC diesel but not wranglers?
no reason they can't...they just choose not to for some reason. The wrangler is the only jeep model that has 1 engine option, which is annoying.
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whats different on the bodies of the GC that they cant manage to fit a diesel engine/exhuast/and sensors in the wrangler. they make VW diesel conversion kits for the wranglers...........Chrysler cant do this? Geezus
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Unread 08-23-2013, 10:24 AM   #9
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whats different on the bodies of the GC that they cant manage to fit a diesel engine/exhuast/and sensors in the wrangler.
Mostly the price tag.
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They already make a diesel wrangler. Most (if not all?) wrangler's sent over to Europe are made in Toledo, OH with a diesel engine. The diesel does not meet air quality standards for use in the USA, though. The main reason most OEM companies never made US small diesels was demand. Or lack there of, that is. With the increase in small diesel sales from VW and GM, this thought train might change. Hopefully.
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if you can fit a 6.4 you can fit a diesel easy
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Unread 08-23-2013, 12:32 PM   #12
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I think demand is the biggest issue. The off road community would love one, but the simple truth is the off roaders that would pay extra for a diesel represent a very small percentage of Wrangler sales. It's tough to market and "Eco-diesel" when the mileage will still be bad due to aerodynamics!

So to the OP: the 3.6 and the stick is a lot of fun in my opinion! Just make sure to read up on the "complaints" of the manual
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Yea the rare wranglers i do see here are diesel. Id pay the extra dough for one. Hell id buy one and bring it back with me if the laws let me

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I think demand is the biggest issue. The off road community would love one, but the simple truth is the off roaders that would pay extra for a diesel represent a very small percentage of Wrangler sales. It's tough to market and "Eco-diesel" when the mileage will still be bad due to aerodynamics!

So to the OP: the 3.6 and the stick is a lot of fun in my opinion! Just make sure to read up on the "complaints" of the manual
Thats true if i had a 3.6 im sure that would be enough power for me. Wranglers weren't built for speed anyway. but i cant even imagine the torque from a 4bt. it would crawl all day and the way it sounds....
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Unread 08-23-2013, 02:17 PM   #15
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Thanks for the replies everyone!

Im starting to just lean towards keeping my 11. I mean it is completely paid off in under 3 years. And it would be nice not having that payment anyways lol.

I honestly dont have a problem with the 3.8. It gets the job done . I bought a jeep, not a race car!! I know everyone talks about what there 3.6 can do in 0-60. It is definately faster but still a jeep. Not to mention i get 20 mpg all day long on 33's ( actual not what the computer tells me).

Besides when she decides to die i may just swap in a 4bt with a good old shaker stick. That would be a diesel id really like! Im wondering if anyone knows if a nv4500 will fit into a jk 2door? hope so.

I can also not find any DIY swap over kits ? I think bruiser had one but was ridicuslously expensive. The only thing i can see being a pain is how to wire it into the jk computer. or do u just replace the hole thing?

So ill just keep the 11 i think, it may be slower but sure is up there in MPG.Besides its a hell of a lot faster than my 97 diesel IDI golf haha. . I am also getting dodge 2500 cummins 6 -speed aswell in a few months so that will give me my shaker stick fix lol. I find its nice having auto and manual anyways
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