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Unread 11-27-2011, 08:56 PM   #121
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Yes let's please not bring age into this, you could be 40 years old and new to the hobby and sound stupid. Would a 80 year old wheeler with 20 years experience say "oh you sound like a typical 40 year old who doesn't know their ****"?

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Unread 11-27-2011, 08:59 PM   #122
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also i may be 17 but i know my ****. bringing in age to an argument just makes you look like you really know your stuff man


edit: and yes i have been near and wheeled inside jk's... heavily modded, to stock, to slightly modded. so i have seen it all. and that is where i am drawing my conclusions. not from reading stuff online, not from assuming things, i actually know it.

and the baby thing body panels... my tj hit the same tree as a jk did on a trail... my rig had a scratch, the jk had a full on dent.
My experience comes from owning 2 short arm tj's with 3.5"s of lift on 35's and a short arm JK on 3"s of lift and 35's.

The width of the JK has never been a problem, however it has helped on several occasions. The flatter belly of the JK slides over stuff easier. The slightly longer control arms really do help the tire climb rather then push under the jeep.

Who cares if it dents easier? If I was worried about keeping it in pristine condition I wouldn't be out wheeling it.

Now the TJ is cheaper to modify and definitely feels a little more "connected" when on the trail. I wouldn't trade my JK for another TJ though.
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Unread 11-28-2011, 05:12 PM   #123
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Yes let's please not bring age into this, you could be 40 years old and new to the hobby and sound stupid. Would a 80 year old wheeler with 20 years experience say "oh you sound like a typical 40 year old who doesn't know their ****"?
Well it's common knowledge throughout history most teenagers know everything....just look in the mirror and ask one.

Don't worry in 20 years you will be saying the same thing to some 17yo.....you just won't remember when you were 17.
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Unread 11-28-2011, 06:37 PM   #124
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Well it's common knowledge throughout history most teenagers know everything....just look in the mirror and ask one.

Don't worry in 20 years you will be saying the same thing to some 17yo.....you just won't remember when you were 17.
Wrong.
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Unread 11-28-2011, 07:41 PM   #125
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Wrong.
See you just proved it.
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Unread 11-28-2011, 07:52 PM   #126
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See you just proved it.
No. I'm saying you're wrong that all teenagers think they know everything, that's a generalization that's not true. I don't mind you stating it as an opinion, but don't state it as fact. Don't argue against this there's no point and it's off topic.
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Unread 11-28-2011, 08:04 PM   #127
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Unread 11-28-2011, 08:06 PM   #128
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We (the older folks) didn't say we have seen it all....But your starting to understand.
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Unread 11-28-2011, 10:58 PM   #129
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Seriously, why did goober restart a year old thread that sucked from the get go? Each wrangler model has it's strengths and weaknesses. I've owned all three generations of wranglers, and my favorite is the JK. But that's my opinion, it's not based on out of the box capability. All three are pretty even in stock trim, with the YJs being the exception. Seriously, what was Chrysler thinking with such low ground clearance? I mean, why do we mod jeeps in the first place? To correct weaknesses and increase capability. So get busy building up your rig, and stfu.
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Unread 11-28-2011, 11:26 PM   #130
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Unread 11-29-2011, 12:34 AM   #131
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Seriously, why did goober restart a year old thread that sucked from the get go? Each wrangler model has it's strengths and weaknesses. I've owned all three generations of wranglers, and my favorite is the JK. But that's my opinion, it's not based on out of the box capability. All three are pretty even in stock trim, with the YJs being the exception. Seriously, what was Chrysler thinking with such low ground clearance? I mean, why do we mod jeeps in the first place? To correct weaknesses and increase capability. So get busy building up your rig, and stfu.
I just wanted to make one quick correction, AMC was responsible for the YJ, not Chrysler, kthanxbye
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Unread 11-29-2011, 01:13 AM   #132
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I just wanted to make one quick correction, AMC was responsible for the YJ, not Chrysler, kthanxbye
AND for the beloved 4.0 liter inline 6
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Unread 11-29-2011, 01:25 AM   #133
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Seriously, why did goober restart a year old thread that sucked from the get go? Each wrangler model has it's strengths and weaknesses. I've owned all three generations of wranglers, and my favorite is the JK. But that's my opinion, it's not based on out of the box capability. All three are pretty even in stock trim, with the YJs being the exception. Seriously, what was Chrysler thinking with such low ground clearance? I mean, why do we mod jeeps in the first place? To correct weaknesses and increase capability. So get busy building up your rig, and stfu.
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Unread 11-29-2011, 01:35 AM   #134
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Unread 11-29-2011, 09:43 AM   #135
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The JK motor is lighter, more powerful, more fuel efficient, and more reliable than the 4.0L. Come on guys! I know we all like to be loyal to our long time I6 but there is no point in trashing a quality Mopar product because we can't afford a JK yet!
Have fun towing without the i6.
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