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Unread 11-12-2011, 12:02 PM   #91
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I own a 99 jeep tj and i like newer jeeps its just that jk is a newer vehicle so its going to be more fuel efficient
and overall better its newer. That's like going back to 1997 and comparing tjs to cjs lol.

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Unread 11-16-2011, 06:27 AM   #92
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i looked at a jk at the dealer and i told the man tryingt o sale it to me i would never own one cuase i like my tj .a jeep shouldnt have a in dash nav system,power wondows and locks ,and all that other stuff.jeeps are to be basic and fun no frills
You do know you can buy a JK without all that stuff right?


Having owned multiple TJ's and now a JK I will say the JK is a much better platform to build off of for a moderate offroader.

The drivetrain is tucked up higher so you don't have the shovel hanging down, the transfercase has a fixed output, the factory control arms are up to 6"s longer and much beefier, the added width makes them much more stable and you can run full width axles and still be legal, the bigger wheel openings let you run less lift which results in flatter angles for the control arms so you get less jacking and the axle doesn't push under the jeep wen trying to climb. All that and you get better axles on top of it. I guess you could argue the axle housings bend, but I've never seen anyone swap a TJ axle into a JK because it is stronger.
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Unread 11-23-2011, 03:33 PM   #93
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You do know you can buy a JK without all that stuff right?


Having owned multiple TJ's and now a JK I will say the JK is a much better platform to build off of for a moderate offroader.

The drivetrain is tucked up higher so you don't have the shovel hanging down, the transfercase has a fixed output, the factory control arms are up to 6"s longer and much beefier, the added width makes them much more stable and you can run full width axles and still be legal, the bigger wheel openings let you run less lift which results in flatter angles for the control arms so you get less jacking and the axle doesn't push under the jeep wen trying to climb. All that and you get better axles on top of it. I guess you could argue the axle housings bend, but I've never seen anyone swap a TJ axle into a JK because it is stronger.
wanna give me one? lol, o well, I guess when I'm of age to buy and afford a new wrangler it will be of the new Wrangler platforms and even better than the JK!! Boom sucka.

The Jeep president said he won't add a truck based wrangler to the JK model line because it's too late into production, he said he will start it with the 2014/2015 wranglers, hopefully he makes the grilles like the TJ grilles, I like the shape and direction of them better, and the truck handles!
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Unread 11-24-2011, 11:02 AM   #94
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After skimming through countless pages of opinions, unfortunately, as it seems to be the norm when "JK" is part of the topic header, did the OP get any actual advice about what he was seeking?
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Unread 11-24-2011, 06:04 PM   #95
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After skimming through countless pages of opinions, unfortunately, as it seems to be the norm when "JK" is part of the topic header, did the OP get any actual advice about what he was seeking?
The OP purpose was to troll and bash tjs.
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Unread 11-25-2011, 02:51 PM   #96
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The OP purpose was to troll and bash tjs.

That is unfortunate. As much as I have read about the dislike of the JK, especially here at JeepForum, threads like this are unnecessary.
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Unread 11-25-2011, 02:59 PM   #97
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I like both. They are just different beasts. If I had the $$ I'd be in a JK for sure. I wouldn't mind a leather wrapped steering wheel and a GPS that doesn't fall off my windshield when there is too much dust in the suction cup mount. Anything you don't like you can just pull out. It's still a Jeep dudes. Quit bashing on eachother and let's bash some Hondas or something.
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Unread 11-25-2011, 03:15 PM   #98
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the only thing good that comes out of the jk is the rubi jk 44 axles... everything else on that jeep blows. all my friends who have jk's are breaking just as much as the xj's on the trail. also have any of you jk owners ever payed any attention to how low that chassis hangs??? that thing is on the ground... yeah it comes almost flat from the factory but that is worthless because the chassis is f'in scrapin the ground. and if you get 4 doors... my oh my you have a great break over angle

also if you buy a jeep... you obviously do not buy the thing for the best ride, great road manners, or ride comfort. thats just not what a jeep is. jk's are made for comfort not for performance in any way.
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Unread 11-25-2011, 09:50 PM   #99
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the only thing good that comes out of the jk is the rubi jk 44 axles... everything else on that jeep blows. all my friends who have jk's are breaking just as much as the xj's on the trail. also have any of you jk owners ever payed any attention to how low that chassis hangs??? that thing is on the ground... yeah it comes almost flat from the factory but that is worthless because the chassis is f'in scrapin the ground. and if you get 4 doors... my oh my you have a great break over angle

also if you buy a jeep... you obviously do not buy the thing for the best ride, great road manners, or ride comfort. thats just not what a jeep is. jk's are made for comfort not for performance in any way.
I like what that one dude said the drivetrain is tucked up nicer on justkiddings than TJs, and how you can fit bigger tires with less lift. But that's about it.
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Unread 11-25-2011, 11:00 PM   #100
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I like what that one dude said the drivetrain is tucked up nicer on justkiddings than TJs, and how you can fit bigger tires with less lift. But that's about it.
what i'm trying to say is that even though the drivetrain is "tucked up nicely" it really isn't any better because the chassis is just lower.
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Unread 11-25-2011, 11:01 PM   #101
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also jk have seriously like paper thin body panels... like if i fell into it i'd be afraid to dent it... would not even want to think about what would happen on a trail
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Unread 11-25-2011, 11:08 PM   #102
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Unread 11-25-2011, 11:17 PM   #103
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ehh i'm not a fan of the stock yj suspension. it needs alot of attention
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Unread 11-25-2011, 11:27 PM   #104
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Haha ruggedness is key though
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Unread 11-26-2011, 05:51 AM   #105
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the only thing good that comes out of the jk is the rubi jk 44 axles... everything else on that jeep blows. all my friends who have jk's are breaking just as much as the xj's on the trail. also have any of you jk owners ever payed any attention to how low that chassis hangs??? that thing is on the ground... yeah it comes almost flat from the factory but that is worthless because the chassis is f'in scrapin the ground. and if you get 4 doors... my oh my you have a great break over angle

also if you buy a jeep... you obviously do not buy the thing for the best ride, great road manners, or ride comfort. thats just not what a jeep is. jk's are made for comfort not for performance in any way.
could you be any more full of it?
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