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post #16 of 40 Old 12-23-2011, 09:29 AM
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Can we add a poll to this?

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post #17 of 40 Old 12-23-2011, 09:34 AM
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On a more realistic note I think you're looking for a way out of some rust you've found that you don't care for and because many other people have reported the same or similar problems you're thinking it might be an appropriate case for a recall. I've never been in a situation where something I had was recalled but recently my uncle's Ford Windstar van was recalled for the rear axle issues. He drove a rented Town&Country for 4 months because Ford no longer makes minivans and they basically parked all Windstars while they figured out what to do. They ended up repairing them and he now has his Windstar back and doesn't have any issues.

A recall on the scale you're talking would likely require them to require EVERY Jeep back if only to be checked regardless of if you're having the rust that you're so bent out of shape about. Not only would this be a time consuming and costly endeavour but you'd be without your vehicle for who knows how long with the potential of it being crushed when they come to a decision. There comes a point when the fact that you see some rust is no longer the responsibility of the manufacturer and I think your 14 year old heep is well past that mark.

You may find some support on this or other forums but I don't think what you're shooting for is terribly realistic and most people know Jeeps aren't going to be perfect vehicles to begin with. By nature most Jeepers are tinkerers and while rust sucks we suck up and handle it. How bad is your rust problem? Is it something you can wire wheel down and cover with some POR or something similar? I think you'd have a much better reaction here if you tried to fix it instead of sticking it on someone else and expecting them to fix it. But that is just the generally entitled attitude so many people seem to have these days...
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post #18 of 40 Old 12-23-2011, 09:39 AM
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I know it is a shot in the dark but you never know sometimes all you need is a small shot....Just think how many it could help...My frame is not rotted but it is showing some signs of the tj rust issues
Look at everything people have done to try to get OPDA and gas tank addressed and no results. And those are actual manufacturing issues and in the gas tank case involve a real safety issue. But you think jeep will pay attention to this? That is funny!
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If Chrysler still hasn't acknowledged the OPDA and gas tank issue, do you really think they are going to care about people who live in rust prone complaining about rust?
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.......If your frame is good then it wouldn't even apply to you... Im aware of the fixes there are but it is frustrating to deal with...I did not post this to be bashed I posted this to bring light on a problem that many of us experience...
But even if my frame is not rotted , it will still effect me if i want to sell, or if I'm in a wreck and have to deal with a insurance company.
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Ever see what happened to the NADA or KBB book values of Tacomas before and after the recall.
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About 7 years ago my wife & I turned in a Ford Explorer that she had leased. After the inspection they listed a rusted side step that we would need to pay to replace, I played the "rust is an act of God" card & the response I got was that it can be prevented with good preventive maintenance.

So too can your frame.



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post #22 of 40 Old 12-23-2011, 10:33 AM Thread Starter
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Im not trying to get out of repairing my jeep in any way, In fact I love repairing it. I just feel that chrysler has a problem and it should be addressed by them...I would never want to cause a negative effect on others. Maybe it is a bad idea but it was just a thought,I know anything can be fixed but like I said it is frustrating to find so many tj rotting away under and it being passed off like no biggie...One thing to remember a vehicle is not a investment in any way..KBB is good for dealers not for modified vehicles, If someone likes your jeep they will pay what you ask plane and simple................

As for a poll that would be cool. how do you set it up for a poll decision?
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post #23 of 40 Old 12-23-2011, 10:36 AM Thread Starter
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Maintenance is the key true to that...Like I said It was my opinion and I never would want it to impact anyone else in a negative way....I prob is a bad idea in a way of resale aspect.
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I wanted to say thanks for all the reply's. It is always good to hear others opinions ( if they are constructive) I know it is a huge shot in the dark and prob a bad idea but I really never thought how it could affect so many in a negative way..
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[QUOTE=tanksoldier;12730038]I'm positive you're an idiot.[/

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I think it's time for mommy to stop tucking you in to bed at night.

Let me see if I'm reading all this correctly; you don't have a rotten frame, but you have some mild rust starting to appear, which would be what any 14 year old vehicle in Michigan would exhibit in the absolute best case. You allege that you are concerned for all those other Jeep owners who do in fact have a rotten frame and want to start a rally cry and contact a lawyer so Jeep will recall all frames and replace your frame? Your 14 year old frame that is still solid and not rotten.

If the ungalvanized CJ frame rots because of poor drainage, then why does the galvanized TJ frame rot? If 14 years isn't enough, then how long is a vehicle manufacturer supposed to engineer a vehicle to last with no signs of rust in a location where there's lots of snow and ice and salt?

And a question more relevant to your initial statements, how many people have died or been seriously injured as a result of a rotten TJ frame?

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post #28 of 40 Old 12-23-2011, 12:54 PM
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This post isnít intended to bash you or anything; Iím just wondering why you stopped at í03 on the TJís when the last year was í06?
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post #29 of 40 Old 12-23-2011, 12:58 PM
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You're a retard. Simply put.

Keeping your car clean can prevent rust, even in areas where they layer salt on the road. Why should someone else pay for your ****ty maintenance. All it is these days is "I want this for free" and "Its someone else's fault and not me."
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