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Unread 05-14-2013, 11:59 AM   #31
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Smittybilt, ProComp, Rugged Ridge, pocket flares......it's all bottom-shelf junk. That's a hell of a way to burn $50k.

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Unread 05-14-2013, 12:03 PM   #32
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This 4" is just to much for what ever size tire is crazy. Go anywhere were the rocks are the size of your tires or bigger and tell me how great a 2.5 lift is. I have never met anyone that said I wish I had less lift, none ever. I wheel with three large clubs all over many states out west here.
My TJ is lower now on 37's than it was on 35's and it's always been on the low range of the spectrum. I wheel bigger rocks now than I did then. Your point is certainly not absolute and yes, plenty of people have gone down in height for the obvious benefits. There is a thread on that exact subject on the first page of JKO right now.

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Unread 05-14-2013, 12:04 PM   #33
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Thanks for all the input guys. Not saying she might want to venture off road eventually but definitely foresee it being a mall crawler at first. I am cool with that, she is a good woman and I just want to get her "dream Jeep". However I do not want to pay top dollar for mods that are not going to hold up over time. (who would??)

Again, thanks for your help and opinions. Definitely an informative thread regardless if you are a newb or veteran.
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Unread 05-14-2013, 12:06 PM   #34
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I see a stock JKU is around 71". My garage clearance is around 82". Anyone see any clearance issues with a 3" lift and either 33 or 35s?
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Unread 05-14-2013, 12:09 PM   #35
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I see a stock JKU is around 71". My garage clearance is around 82". Anyone see any clearance issues with a 3" lift and either 33 or 35s?
You'll be fine. Figure a stock JK runs 32s, so 35s are 1.5" taller, add in a 3" lift and you're well under 82".

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Unread 05-14-2013, 04:59 PM   #36
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Someone pointed me to Collin Bros Jeeps in DFW. They do custom Jeep builds too but have way more experience than Starwood Motors. Plus they seem to have better prices. Might check them out on a custom build.

http://www.collinsbrosjeep.com/
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Unread 05-14-2013, 06:54 PM   #37
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Someone pointed me to Collin Bros Jeeps in DFW. They do custom Jeep builds too but have way more experience than Starwood Motors. Plus they seem to have better prices. Might check them out on a custom build.

http://www.collinsbrosjeep.com/
Be careful. I was scrolling through their 'custom work' tab and they have the infamous 1993 TJ!! I wouldn't trust a shop that doesn't even know the generations of jeeps...

Although all those cj-8's they restored...

Do either of these shops give a detailed receipt? I'm sure you could get some more information for them but you gotta figure you are going to be spending a HUGE chunk of money on labor...and all those inferior parts are items most guys on here wouldn't ever run, but if your wife wants to mall-crawl with it then more power to her. Spend your money however you want
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Unread 05-14-2013, 07:03 PM   #38
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Someone pointed me to Collin Bros Jeeps in DFW. They do custom Jeep builds too but have way more experience than Starwood Motors. Plus they seem to have better prices. Might check them out on a custom build.

http://www.collinsbrosjeep.com/
Serious man buy a jeep stock from autotrader and build the thing yourself over time. I haven't had mine yet a year and already put aftermarket bumpers, fog lights, new speakers, cd player, radiator flush, brakes, air filter, new cats, new 31x10.50 tires, 4.0, 6 speed, air, tilt, cruise 58k miles. There is no way ever i would pay any company that has a built jeep as they all charge to much as that's how they stay in business. Unless your a millionaire, i would stay clear of all these companies. I live in dallas and me and friends could help you with installing a lift kit, bumpers, etc. We enjoy wrenching on jeeps.
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Unread 05-15-2013, 07:11 AM   #39
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Serious man buy a jeep stock from autotrader and build the thing yourself over time. I haven't had mine yet a year and already put aftermarket bumpers, fog lights, new speakers, cd player, radiator flush, brakes, air filter, new cats, new 31x10.50 tires, 4.0, 6 speed, air, tilt, cruise 58k miles. There is no way ever i would pay any company that has a built jeep as they all charge to much as that's how they stay in business. Unless your a millionaire, i would stay clear of all these companies. I live in dallas and me and friends could help you with installing a lift kit, bumpers, etc. We enjoy wrenching on jeeps.
Thanks for the input. I might just have to take you up on that someday. Hope you like beer...
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Unread 05-15-2013, 02:50 PM   #40
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Just a quick update. I decided to call Starwood and ask a few questions:

- The salesmen I talked to was unaware of any warranty on the liner spray.
- They quote it takes 100 days to build one of their Jeeps
- Stated no modification is needed to steering, brake lines, etc. since they are only using a 4" lift.
- Stated they only use top of the line products.
- No wiggle room in pricing. Believe it's fair and have 40 custom order Jeeps back logged right now.
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Unread 05-15-2013, 03:25 PM   #41
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He's an idiot that knows nothing about the products he sells.

100 days? I could do that in a weekend, minus the liner. That would take an extra day. That's all while grilling, drinking and watching football.

4" is quite large, not 'minor' like he seems to think. He has no idea what he's talking about.

They exclusively use junk, not top of the line products.

Feel free to direct them to this thread. That could be fun.
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Unread 05-15-2013, 03:28 PM   #42
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He's an idiot that knows nothing about the products he sells.

100 days? I could do that in a weekend, minus the liner. That would take an extra day.

4" is quite large, not 'minor' like he seems to think. He has no idea what he's talking about.

They exclusively use junk, not top of the line products.

Feel free to direct them to this thread. That could be fun.
I know. It took everything I had to not laugh when he said it took them 100 days. I didn't have time to debate him on the phone. This guy was clueless about the Jeeps. If you are going to charge a premium price you better know your product.
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Unread 05-15-2013, 07:52 PM   #43
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Did anyone else see their $144,000 Jeep? For sure a lot of work went into it, and get rid of the stripes, put some real wheels and tires, and it's ok, but 144 g's ?!? Holy crap!
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Unread 05-15-2013, 08:21 PM   #44
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Yeah no Jeep is worth that.

I talked to another company that does the Kevlar spraying and they stated they only do black. That the other colors they cant match. Obviously Starwood does it in any color. I wonder who is right.
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Unread 05-16-2013, 12:29 AM   #45
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4" is a minor lift now? I wouldn't buy anything from there....
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