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post #1 of 22 Old 07-15-2010, 05:41 PM Thread Starter
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Sell it whole or part it out?

I recently bought a 98 Wrangler Tj from a guy in Bridgewater and got screwed. It has 44k miles on it, 3 inch lift kit, giant tires, 2 inch steel brush guards on the front and back and a whole separate spare tire holder that was custom made to fit a farm vehicle jack because the vehicle is so high off the ground. Its a beautiful vehicle but has many problems that were unnoticed. In short, the vehicle is dangerous and therefor i want to get rid of it after i had it for only two weeks. The lemon law should apply but since i bought it from an individual, i need proof that he knew in order to get my money back. I got a flat a few days after getting the jeep and had to order two new tires. When i brought it in to have the new tires put on we discovered that the front axel was actually shifted 1/2 inch to the left because the bracket that held the axel to the frame was broken previously and was re-welded back crooked. In addition to the axle being out of whack, the allignment was off which meant extreme uneven tire wear. Also the transmission mount broke and the transmission is now resting on the skid plate. When we lifted the jeep up, we discovered that one of the rear brackets that connected the rear axle to the frame was completely rusted through and had become detached from the frame all together which was not evident until the jeep was on a lift.

My question is this: The jeep is dangerous to drive as is but i need it gone and need money in return. Would i get more money selling it for parts such as the engine, transmission, body, all the insides, tires, wheels, etc? or would i get more money selling the whole package with the knowledge that it needs alot of work?

Another side question, i mentioned the front right axle bracket being broken and welded crooked causing the axle to be out of whack; would this mean that the rear left is being put under the same stress as the front right?

let me know what you think and thanks to all whom help

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post #2 of 22 Old 07-15-2010, 05:55 PM
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I would keep it. You'll probably lose more money trying to sell it then it would cost to fix it. Can probably be fixed for around 1k or less (depends on how you go about repairing it). Unless the tires are totally bald, they are drivable.

You minus well spend a little extra money and have something, to lose money and have nothing.

OOORRR, sell it for how much you paid for it and see of another unknowing sap will buy it. I also watch Jude Judy, you bought a USED car and AS IS (unless stated otherwise in the add) so you're screwed. The seller KNEW the Jeep had problems so I really doubt he would have said otherwise in the add because you wouldn't have bought it. Simple trip to the mechanic could have saved you a LOT of time and money.
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post #3 of 22 Old 07-15-2010, 05:58 PM
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You'll need to do a little better than "giant tires and 3 inch lift" in your description to get any significant help. When hitting the trails hard with a cheap lift kit and factory control arms (I'm guessing), bad things can happen. Its very easy to deform track bar bracket mounts, control arm mounts, etc. When you mean the front axle is out of alignment, I'm guessing this lift kit of yours might not have the adjustable track bar that would be required to place the axle back in the proper position, as lift kits effectively shorten your wheelbase and offset the axles if track bars aren't used.

I'd check your track bars first (aside from the crooked bracket which can easily be replaced) , take it to a shop that knows how to do a front end alignment on a solid front axle vehicle (7 years in the car business and I can tell you the auto service industry is filled with the underinformed).

Companies like ballistic and poly performance can ship out high quality replacement bracket kits no prob, and any good welder and burn em on for a couple hundred.

As far as the lemon law goes, you willfully bought a modified vehicle, and it sounds like some previous experience and due diligence might have caught those problems prior to purchase but I'm no lawyer. Good luck.
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I recently bought a 98 Wrangler Tj from a guy in Bridgewater and got screwed. It has 44k miles on it, 3 inch lift kit, giant tires, 2 inch steel brush guards on the front and back and a whole separate spare tire holder that was custom made to fit a farm vehicle jack because the vehicle is so high off the ground. Its a beautiful vehicle but has many problems that were unnoticed. In short, the vehicle is dangerous and therefor i want to get rid of it after i had it for only two weeks. The lemon law should apply but since i bought it from an individual, i need proof that he knew in order to get my money back. I got a flat a few days after getting the jeep and had to order two new tires. When i brought it in to have the new tires put on we discovered that the front axel was actually shifted 1/2 inch to the left because the bracket that held the axel to the frame was broken previously and was re-welded back crooked. In addition to the axle being out of whack, the allignment was off which meant extreme uneven tire wear. Also the transmission mount broke and the transmission is now resting on the skid plate. When we lifted the jeep up, we discovered that one of the rear brackets that connected the rear axle to the frame was completely rusted through and had become detached from the frame all together which was not evident until the jeep was on a lift.

My question is this: The jeep is dangerous to drive as is but i need it gone and need money in return. Would i get more money selling it for parts such as the engine, transmission, body, all the insides, tires, wheels, etc? or would i get more money selling the whole package with the knowledge that it needs alot of work?

Another side question, i mentioned the front right axle bracket being broken and welded crooked causing the axle to be out of whack; would this mean that the rear left is being put under the same stress as the front right?

let me know what you think and thanks to all whom help
I think you should either man up and fix the crap you bought because it was "pretty"

OR;
sell it, buy a Prius and a subscription to a shrink.
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post #5 of 22 Old 07-15-2010, 06:01 PM
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I think you should either man up and fix the crap you bought because it was "pretty"

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sell it, buy a Prius and a subscription to a shrink.

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post #6 of 22 Old 07-15-2010, 06:03 PM
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or, if you part it out, I'll drive up and take half of it.

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post #7 of 22 Old 07-15-2010, 06:07 PM
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this can be an easy fix. dont be so intimidated. just start doing your hw and youll know that welding brackets and stuff really isnt a big deal. just take this opportunity to buy a welder and learn some new skills. upgrade cheapo parts with quality rokmen, currie, or make your own and it will be all good

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post #8 of 22 Old 07-15-2010, 06:23 PM
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i say fix it.

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post #9 of 22 Old 07-15-2010, 06:25 PM
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Just put an adjustable track bar and get that bracket rewelded, seems cheaper than seeling and buying another

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post #10 of 22 Old 07-15-2010, 06:28 PM
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I agree to fix it. Give it a new life.


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post #11 of 22 Old 07-15-2010, 06:36 PM
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From the description you gave of the current condition of the vehicle it doesn't qualify under Lemon Law, that's more for flooded vehicles and major stuff like that. Not for general maintenance type stuff.

What you have on your hands is a jeep with a few easy to fix gremlins.
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post #12 of 22 Old 07-15-2010, 06:36 PM
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you can sell me some parts for cheap !!
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post #13 of 22 Old 07-15-2010, 06:46 PM
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Did you test drive the Jeep at all before buying it? Or look under it to inspect for rust or anything?
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post #14 of 22 Old 07-15-2010, 06:59 PM
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How about some photos?

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post #15 of 22 Old 07-15-2010, 07:02 PM
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I think a lot of us, me included, go through a similiar phase with our jeeps. I did not know anything about TJ's when I bought mine and I overlooked a lot of what the previous owner had done wrong. I now have most of it done right and I absolutely love my TJ, I wouldn't trade it for anything except another jeep.

Hang in there, keep it, and fix it; it can't be that bad.
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