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Unread 03-26-2013, 10:36 AM   #31
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I dont get it. My Xterra has 3.13 gear ratio and is rated for #5000
My brother bought an Armada fully rated for his large travel trailer. He had multiple suspension failures while towing. When he took a cross country trip, he had two exhaust manifold failures and finally got stuck in Oklahoma for a week waiting for a new transmission.

He now tows with a Ford F150.

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Unread 03-26-2013, 11:18 AM   #32
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So that means that if I leave it in 5th gear that would give me a 3.82 rear axle gearing, then I would be ok to tow more?

What could happen if I tow about 1600lbs on a 1000lbs ridiculous max capacity?
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Unread 03-26-2013, 11:47 AM   #33
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My brother bought an Armada fully rated for his large travel trailer. He had multiple suspension failures while towing. When he took a cross country trip, he had two exhaust manifold failures and finally got stuck in Oklahoma for a week waiting for a new transmission.

He now tows with a Ford F150.
don't want to get off subject here but, only thing I've towed with my Xterra was my jeep. Flat towed 8 hours no gripes here.

fchabot I would personally tow 1600lbs no problem with your jeep. Just drive like you have some sense and leave pleanty of room to stop in case you need it.
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Unread 03-26-2013, 12:04 PM   #34
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So that means that if I leave it in 5th gear that would give me a 3.82 rear axle gearing, then I would be ok to tow more?

What could happen if I tow about 1600lbs on a 1000lbs ridiculous max capacity?
Jeep 's derating of capacity has nothing to do with the drive train. The unlimited gets much higher rating with the same drivetrain. It's the short wheelbase that makes them nervous (minicooper is not so conservative) .

As long as the rig you are pulling is well behaved with the Jeep, 1600 lbs should not be a problem.
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Unread 03-26-2013, 12:51 PM   #35
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Jeep 's derating of capacity has nothing to do with the drive train. The unlimited gets much higher rating with the same drivetrain. It's the short wheelbase that makes them nervous (minicooper is not so conservative) .

As long as the rig you are pulling is well behaved with the Jeep, 1600 lbs should not be a problem.
He has an unlimited, with 3.21 gears jeep limits the JKU to 1000# towing capacity.
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Unread 03-26-2013, 03:23 PM   #36
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Thank you all for your comments, really helpful!
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Unread 03-26-2013, 07:55 PM   #37
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Finally I think I'll just do it, keeping in mind that limitation while driving
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Unread 03-26-2013, 10:05 PM   #38
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@Prot : I have a 4 doors sahara. I took my info from the user manual : www.jeep.com/download/pdf/ug/2011-Wrangler-UG-1st.pdf : Page 51, 1st line. The 3000$ regearing cost is the price from two local chrysler dealer. I'm in Canada, maybe it's more expensive around here.

@32vld : So that means that if I stay in the 1st to 5th gear I would stay close to a 3.73 ratio and be okay?

Thanks everyone for your comments, it's really helping me dealing with this!
You are out of your mind to take it to the dealer for regearing. I hope they at least kiss you first.

Take it to a four wheel drive shop that has experience with rebuilding differentials. You should pay between $900 and $1,600 total for both axles parts and labor included.

Decide what size tires you are most likely to stay with then regear for those tires. If you are staying with stock 32" tires, since you have a manual transmission, go with 4.10 gears. For 33's, go with 4.56. For 35's, go with 4.88. For 37's go with 5.13.

Since I have an automatic with 35's, I went with 5.13 and it's pretty good in all situations.


Looking at the PDF you linked to, the lousy 3.21 gears you have is your limiting factor as you will see most other combinations on those tables show 3,500 pound rating. I know I have decent towing capacity with my set up. Of course it's not a diesel super duty truck, but it pulls what I need to just fine.
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Unread 03-26-2013, 10:20 PM   #39
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Stop griping, it'll tow it just fine. Keep it out of OD, use your head, plan out your braking, and don't drive it like it's a Mini Cooper
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Unread 03-27-2013, 10:31 AM   #40
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here is my tow 3.21
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Unread 03-27-2013, 10:33 AM   #41
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here is my tow 3.21
This is probably the same weight of a small popup trailer.

Nice buggy by the way!!
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Unread 03-27-2013, 10:48 AM   #42
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This is probably the same weight of a small popup trailer.

Nice buggy by the way!!
yup will do 35 MPH lots of fun on the beach
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Unread 03-27-2013, 03:16 PM   #43
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Unread 03-27-2013, 07:44 PM   #44
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Since your going to tow on a regular basis, I would definitely re-gear. Or find a cheap tow rig.
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Unread 03-28-2013, 02:34 PM   #45
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Does anybody know where I could find a european version on the wrangler owner manuel, or any towing capacities in europe?

Juste to compare.
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