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Unread 10-05-2010, 06:52 AM   #1
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LJ vs JK....opinions needed!

Ok, let me start by saying that I really, really love my LJ. Wife has commented that maybe a JK Unlimited would be cool b/c it would be less of a pain to load/unload rear passengers (ok...fine.....KIDS!) and allows for 5 passengers instead of 4.

So, my dilemma is whether or not to sell my LJ and get a JKU. My LJ is only mildly lifted (2" BB), running 32's. I have a new 1" BL that I still need to put on. Overall, I'm really happy with the LJ. My love of the LJ coupled with the fact that production numbers were (relatively) low for them, I'm having a hard time deciding to sell it. Also, it's pretty easy to work on. Not sure if the JK's are more difficult or not.

After reading about some of the JK shortcomings (namely with the automatic transmissions), I'm hesitant to jump on the JK bandwagon. I'm amazed at how many friggin automatics there are out there, but relatively few manuals for sale in the JKU. I don't want to leave the JKU stock.....I think they look weird. But with a 4" lift and 35's, they look more like a Jeep (to me). But getting to those specs will require some additional cash on top of the JKU purchase.

So, does anyone have any opinion one way or another which they'd opt for if given the choice?

Thanks in advance for any help/opinions. I appreciate it.

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Unread 10-05-2010, 06:58 AM   #2
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Keep the LJ for now at least. In the next few years there are going to be some major improvements mainly HP with the new Pentastar V6. 2011 already got the new revamped interior but still has the 3.8 gutless. From what I've heard the Pentastar is going to have upwards of 300hp. Wait for it.
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Unread 10-05-2010, 07:20 AM   #3
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My main concern with the LJ is the CPS wear issue. Might be worth it to trade before it becomes an issue.
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Unread 10-05-2010, 07:31 AM   #4
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My main concern with the LJ is the CPS wear issue. Might be worth it to trade before it becomes an issue.
Is this a sensor issue, or a mechanical one? Isn't the CPS the Crankshaft Position Sensor?
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Unread 10-05-2010, 08:14 AM   #5
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Yeah its a pretty simple fix...
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Unread 10-05-2010, 08:14 AM   #6
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Is this a sensor issue, or a mechanical one? Isn't the CPS the Crankshaft Position Sensor?
Nevermind....just found lots of stuff regarding this issue. Looks like a real mess. Guess I'll be checking into this very soon. Thanks for the heads-up.
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Unread 10-05-2010, 08:16 AM   #7
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Is this a sensor issue, or a mechanical one? Isn't the CPS the Crankshaft Position Sensor?
Yes it's the Crankshaft Position Sensor. It's a mechanical issue where great wears and can eventually affect the oil pump drive.
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Unread 10-05-2010, 11:29 AM   #8
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Having owned JK unlimited and now an LJ, I say stay with the LJ. My JK was an auto, and so is my LJ, but i had trans issues from day one and i bought it off the lot with 20 miles on the od. Heat went out on the way home from the dealer, in Jan, and it had body panels that were thiner than a beer can. I really wanted to like the JK but after being stranded 3 times with trans problems its hard to look back. It had under 4k on the od when i unloaded it after a year of ownership because i went back to driving my TJ so at least i had reliable transportation. I am very happy with my 04 LJ and got a great deal on it. Only wish it was a manual like my TJ was. I havent had any issues with the CPS wear but may look into it deeper just to be safe.
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Unread 10-05-2010, 03:11 PM   #9
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I have a built LJ so I am keeping it, but having a new daughter (7 months)...has made me start thinking about the JK (4door). it would be SOOO much easier to get her in and out.... IF I do sell my LJ it would only be to get the JK with the new Pentastar engine, if I didn't have so much $$$ in my LJ, I would have to sell it to get the JK... the JK makes more sense when you have a family and young children (IMO)..
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Unread 10-05-2010, 05:29 PM   #10
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Nah. The two doors are fine.
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Unread 10-05-2010, 05:42 PM   #11
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Nah. The two doors are fine.
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I would also say to wait a couple years if that is an option for you. The 3.8 in the jk's is absolute crap and I still cannot believe jeep would do such a thing to the magnificent 4.0. Hopefully the Pentastar will right some of the wrongs, but I'm personally holding out untill a diesel option emerges.

I've heard rumors of Land Rover testing a new diesel for the new defender platform that may make it to America... Jeep better get one here first because if Land Rover gives us Defenders again and a diesel, then sorry Jeep but I'm switching sides.
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Unread 10-05-2010, 05:47 PM   #12
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Any of the new v6 engines are crap. We had a liberty and lost the motor at 120kish and all my friends with the 4 door wranglers complain about them. Plus I have been reading they are kicking the bucket way early also
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Unread 10-05-2010, 07:20 PM   #13
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Thanks for the replies everyone. One thing I like about the "old platform" is that it's pretty simplistic in design and allows for easy maintenance/tinkering. The JK seems to be more refined, but I'm worried that with the refinement comes a more complicated design. I'm also disappointed to hear that they've cut corners with respect to the sheet metal. I guess they did it to save weight (and money.....for them)?
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Unread 10-05-2010, 07:27 PM   #14
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I am very happy with my 04 LJ and got a great deal on it. Only wish it was a manual like my TJ was. I havent had any issues with the CPS wear but may look into it deeper just to be safe.
I don't think the 04s had the cps issue. They had the older design cps.
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Unread 10-05-2010, 09:03 PM   #15
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Yea....this CPS issue has had me reading the forum for the past 3 hours! I'm freaked out by it. Stopped by the dealer on the way home and of course they said my VIN wasn't affected by the TSB. Still not feeling all that great about it since there are plenty of folks outside the range of dates specified in the TSB with the issue.

Wife said to just sell it and get a JK.
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