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Unread 12-02-2008, 05:22 AM   #1
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Took my 01 TJ to a dealer yesterday, the sensor on thop of the transfer case was gone, told me it would be a 1/2 hr job, with the part costing $36.00, I said fine while they had it up the said the rear differential seal was leaking, told me the seal was $23.00 which I knew was bull , but said what to hell might as well have it taken care of.............Theyr'e labor rate is $79.00 per/hr. Anyway it was done after 50mins..........The service mgr. presented me with a bill of $237.00!!!!! I said what to hell is this, he said we're a flat rate shop!!! After some haggling I got the bill down to $193.00
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Unread 12-02-2008, 05:32 AM   #2
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wow sorry that happened to you. IMO a FSM is the very best thing you can have. it has step-by-step instructions for removal, disassembly, reassembly, and reinstallation of everything on your Jeep including the torque specs.
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Unread 12-02-2008, 06:20 AM   #3
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wow sorry that happened to you. IMO a FSM is the very best thing you can have. it has step-by-step instructions for removal, disassembly, reassembly, and reinstallation of everything on your Jeep including the torque specs.
where would one find an FSM?
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Unread 12-02-2008, 06:28 AM   #4
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WOW my shop would of done that job for well under 100. $40 an hour plus parts
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Unread 12-02-2008, 06:52 AM   #5
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WOW my shop would of done that job for well under 100. $40 an hour plus parts
Thus your name,LuckyDuck.
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Unread 12-02-2008, 09:02 AM   #6
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you can get a haynes manual at most auto parts stores or on amazon.com. thats what i have and it's a life saver. i hate taking my heep to a shop or the dealer unless its a computer problem or something that i don't feel comfortable doing myself....
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Unread 12-02-2008, 09:57 AM   #7
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The service mgr. presented me with a bill of $237.00!!!!! I said what to hell is this, he said we're a flat rate shop!!! After some haggling I got the bill down to $193.00
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In your case this turned out to bite you in the butt. However, lets say you went to a Honda dealership to have your timing belt replaced. They are a flat rate shop, and its considered a 4 hour job.... but lets say that it takes the mechanic all day (8 hours). You are only billed for 4 hours. It works both ways.
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Unread 12-02-2008, 10:21 AM   #8
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In your case this turned out to bite you in the butt. However, lets say you went to a Honda dealership to have your timing belt replaced. They are a flat rate shop, and its considered a 4 hour job.... but lets say that it takes the mechanic all day (8 hours). You are only billed for 4 hours. It works both ways.
Yep. I got a quote from the local dealership to install my hard top wiring harness (purchased elsewhere). They estimated/quoted 1 1/2 hours. Took them over 3 hours, but they billed me for 1 1/2.

With my lack of wiring skills, that was money well spent!
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Unread 12-02-2008, 11:21 AM   #9
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I prefer flat rate shops myself. It ensures that the estimate and the bill are the same. Like others have said, the repair can take longer and you win. When they are faster, you pay what you expected.
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Unread 12-02-2008, 11:34 AM   #10
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I work at an hourly shop but we only charge 40 an hour and even if it goes over we usually charge close to our estimate. we need costumers...
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