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post #16 of 31 Old 02-08-2017, 06:56 PM
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Heh Heh, there wasn't anything wrong with my '08 JKUR--

After eight years I was ready for a new vehicle, I was just becoming leery of jeeps elex systems so I traded it in before failure-

Now I get to play with a new Ram !

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post #17 of 31 Old 02-08-2017, 08:38 PM
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Heh Heh, there wasn't anything wrong with my '08 JKUR--



After eight years I was ready for a new vehicle, I was just becoming leery of jeeps elex systems so I traded it in before failure-



Now I get to play with a new Ram !



Whatever



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post #18 of 31 Old 02-10-2017, 05:56 AM
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I made a similar decision 10 years ago - after 12 years of owning Jeeps. I've had several CJs, a GW and and three GCs. One of the GCs was great... the others were pretty much junk. I switched to Toyota in 2007 with a new FJ Cruiser. It was perfect, flawless, faultless... in the four years I owned it, the only money I spent on it was maintenance, fuel and lots and lots of mods. I have a Land Cruiser now, and it's been largely the same - just maintenance and mods.

I recently built a Scrambler... with an LS motor, Chevy transmission... Okay, so really no Jeep in my Jeep, but it seemed the best of both worlds.

I doubt I'll ever trust Jeep again with the new stuff. That sucks - 'cause I've been following the rebirth of the Grand Wagoneer for years. As much as I've loved the FSJs, I just don't think Jeep can pull it off... without electrical issues, transmission problems, etc. I'll drive my Land Cruiser and admire the new GW from afar.

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post #19 of 31 Old 02-11-2017, 05:19 PM
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I made a similar decision 10 years ago - after 12 years of owning Jeeps. I've had several CJs, a GW and and three GCs. One of the GCs was great... the others were pretty much junk. I switched to Toyota in 2007 with a new FJ Cruiser. It was perfect, flawless, faultless... in the four years I owned it, the only money I spent on it was maintenance, fuel and lots and lots of mods. I have a Land Cruiser now, and it's been largely the same - just maintenance and mods.

I recently built a Scrambler... with an LS motor, Chevy transmission... Okay, so really no Jeep in my Jeep, but it seemed the best of both worlds.

I doubt I'll ever trust Jeep again with the new stuff. That sucks - 'cause I've been following the rebirth of the Grand Wagoneer for years. As much as I've loved the FSJs, I just don't think Jeep can pull it off... without electrical issues, transmission problems, etc. I'll drive my Land Cruiser and admire the new GW from afar.
So out of curiosity.

Which vehicles were purchased new (other than the FJ) and for the used ones how many miles on each?

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post #20 of 31 Old 02-12-2017, 03:42 PM
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So out of curiosity.

Which vehicles were purchased new (other than the FJ) and for the used ones how many miles on each?
A new ZJ, a new Limited 4x4 WJ and the FJC
Used WJ Overland, Land Cruiser 100 Series with 39,000 miles; and a bunch of CJs, FSJ

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A new ZJ, a new Limited 4x4 WJ and the FJC
Used WJ Overland, Land Cruiser 100 Series with 39,000 miles; and a bunch of CJs, FSJ
Thanks.

It's funny cause it's so different from my experiences.

4 Jeeps, 3 new (one off lease XJ, but the 99 WJ, 12 WK2, and now 16 JKU all new).

The XJ was the problem child. Everything else was or has been great (granted we're only at 60k on the WK2 but it's been bulletproof burning not a drop of oil in 8k mile computer regulated intervals)/, and obviously the 16 is too young to count but I've got optimism).

I've seen Yota and Honda failures way too young.

And I'd never guessed a Land Rover would rank up in the reliable range, but that's great.

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post #23 of 31 Old 02-13-2017, 07:18 AM
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And I'd never guessed a Land Rover would rank up in the reliable range, but that's great.
I had to re-reread my posts. "Land Cruiser" not "Land Rover"

I did have a Land Rover once... ONCE. Bought it new in '96 and couldn't get rid of it soon enough. The repairs bills literally totaled up to be greater than the resale value. Fortunately it was under warranty when I owned it. But wow - the TSBs alone were endless. I'd take it in for an oil change and it'd get a transfer case, and all new fastening bolts on the the intake. Or, the dashboard removed and reglued. They never wanted customers to wait - because the list of stuff being done was always way longer than the customer knew.

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post #24 of 31 Old 02-13-2017, 07:25 AM
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what I cant see is if you've drove them for 25 years and all of a sudden found out they aren't as reliable as a ford or chev. Ive drove them and WRENCHED on them for about 30 years now. Never had one that didn't need the tool box taken out a bit more then my other vehicles. Heck I remember about 20 years ago that about anything you bought that was 7 years old with 75k on it was on its last leg.

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post #25 of 31 Old 02-13-2017, 01:10 PM
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I had to re-reread my posts. "Land Cruiser" not "Land Rover"
Oops trying to multitask again....

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post #26 of 31 Old 02-13-2017, 08:15 PM
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Oops trying to multitask again....
Ha. No sweat... Just funny that I actually had a Land Rover.

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UPDATE!!!!! JEEP/Chrysler came through!!! After a month of writing to Jeep in Michigan, and being swapped around 6-8 different people, I FINALLY managed to speak to Sadie in their warranty department and she agreed that Jeep SHOULD stand behind their product and authorized a completely new engine install at THEIR cost! So, all you doubters and people who said just pay up: Lesson learned: be a squeaky wheel, you dont ask you wont get and dont take no for an answer. Now i will have new transmission and a new engine to keep me going the next few years until the new model comes out. And more importantly, this one woman at Chrysler has restored my faith in Jeep and i wrote a letter to her boss saying this individual was responsible for ensuring the next 30 years of Jeep purchases by me and she should be promoted forthwith!
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post #28 of 31 Old 03-20-2017, 04:10 PM
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UPDATE!!!!! JEEP/Chrysler came through!!! After a month of writing to Jeep in Michigan, and being swapped around 6-8 different people, I FINALLY managed to speak to Sadie in their warranty department and she agreed that Jeep SHOULD stand behind their product and authorized a completely new engine install at THEIR cost! So, all you doubters and people who said just pay up: Lesson learned: be a squeaky wheel, you dont ask you wont get and dont take no for an answer. Now i will have new transmission and a new engine to keep me going the next few years until the new model comes out. And more importantly, this one woman at Chrysler has restored my faith in Jeep and i wrote a letter to her boss saying this individual was responsible for ensuring the next 30 years of Jeep purchases by me and she should be promoted forthwith!
Just curious - since you were out of warranty (exceeded year limit but within mileage limit), what was their argument for agreeing to pay for new engine? Transmission at 2 years and engine at 75K miles could be argued owner abuse. You never shared a lot of specifics as to why the vehicle might or might not be a lemon.
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post #29 of 31 Old 03-21-2017, 03:28 AM
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great news. Glad they took care of you.

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post #30 of 31 Old 03-21-2017, 10:53 AM
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Any company that mass produces a product will have issues. With the internet, the scope of those issues can sometimes be blown out of proportion ONLY because most often it is the pissed off person that decides to go on a rant about how this or that failed. I'm glad to hear Jeep backed up and decided to take care of you. I've been looking at jeeps for over a decade and finally decided to take the plunge at the beginning of this year. With a lifetime waranty on my engine and powertrain, I am hoping that anything else that fails on this thing past 5 years is relatively infrequent and cheapish for me to replace since I plan on keeping my jeep for as long as it will run.

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