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Unread 12-26-2013, 09:29 PM   #46
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Neither do minivan engines
Im not even gonna say anything since TJ owners are so sensitive to criticism

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Unread 12-26-2013, 09:32 PM   #47
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Im not even gonna say anything since TJ owners are so sensitive to criticism

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Hey we arent the nancy boys that need 2 extra doors, room for groceries and a "comfortable" ride for the wife.
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Unread 12-26-2013, 09:39 PM   #48
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Unread 12-27-2013, 07:17 AM   #49
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Im not even gonna say anything since JK owners are so sensitive to criticism
Not sensitive, just weary of trolls....
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Unread 12-27-2013, 08:37 AM   #50
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Not sensitive, just weary of trolls....
The topic is "How do you feel about the new Wranglers?" Everyone is entitled to an opinion... even if its one that gets your panties in a bunch.
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Unread 12-27-2013, 09:09 AM   #51
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Hey we arent the nancy boys that need 2 extra doors, room for groceries and a "comfortable" ride for the wife.
Nothing bunched up on my end at all, I love my JKU.

I don't see an opinion here, just trolling....
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Unread 12-27-2013, 10:44 AM   #52
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Nothing bunched up on my end at all, I love my JKU.

I don't see an opinion here, just trolling....
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Unread 12-27-2013, 11:15 AM   #53
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Unread 12-27-2013, 11:50 AM   #54
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Well I have had three Jeeps before my JKU. 95 YJ horse and buggy compared to everything else. 98 Tj a little bit better but, still lacking. 05 LJ much better than the last two ride quality wise but, not much leg room are arm room to move around. I will say the JK is more car like somewhat but, its still a Jeep being its more versatile than any of its previous models were. I use to hate the JK'S and really hate the 4 doors being I thought Jeep had gotten away from there heritage but, I can honestly say I was stupid for never really giving it a chance. I have had my JKU for a few months and I love it more everyday I drive it. It’s very quiet and peaceful to ride in as well as having much more room to haul things while still being a Jeep. The crazy thing is I get way better gas mileage than any of my previous Jeeps ever did with much more power on the highway. I was able to haul a baby crib with the back seats folded down and there's no way I could have done that in an YJ, TJ or LJ. Everyone will have there own take on the JK but, most that have come from an older Jeep will say its light years better in every aspect. That’s not to say that the older Jeeps are bad its just times have changed and who don't want a little more from a Jeep than just climbing rocks or going in a mud pit? I use to love the 4.0L and though I still like it the 3.8L V6 is a MUCH BETTER ENGINE all around. It has a much more usable power band and is still simple pushrod design that’s proven without the dated flat tappet camshaft. Trust me that’s saying alot for Chrysler engines lol. I will still have a place in my heart for older Jeeps but, there is no way in hell I would give up my JKU for one no matter what the older Jeep had. To me it would be like coaching the NFL and going back to high school football.
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Unread 12-28-2013, 07:02 PM   #55
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On paper I like the jk's minus the price. But on the trail stock jk's tend to get high centered before my stock YJ. I am one whom likes to work on my vehicles and not have car payments so obviously I like my barbaric YJ. That and for the price of a jk front bumper I can build a front bumper, rear swingout tire carrier, and sliders
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Unread 12-29-2013, 06:57 AM   #56
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The 3.8 is ****ing horrendous. My 4.0 with 3.07 and 33s does better on the highway than my 08 JKU did.
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Unread 12-29-2013, 09:30 AM   #57
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The 3.8 is ****ing horrendous. My 4.0 with 3.07 and 33s does better on the highway than my 08 JKU did.
The 3.8L v6 is a great power/torque/rpm engine that JUST needs the correct gearing to provide great mileage/great performance/great cruising power and it'll be a docile idler that'll climb hills/w a lotta weight at the end of the rope-

I'm afraid that complainers of the 3.8L, just won't bother to investigate/cure the "as issued" defecits

Too bad, it's a great engine-

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Unread 12-29-2013, 09:36 AM   #58
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You just ain't gotta clue !

The 3.8L v6 is a great power/torque/rpm engine that JUST needs the correct gearing to provide great mileage/great performance/great cruising power and it'll be a docile idler that'll climb hills/w a lotta weight at the end of the rope-

I'm afraid that complainers of the 3.8L, just won't bother to investigate/cure the "as issued" defecits

Too bad, it's a great engine-

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Maybe so, but it's pretty bad that my 15 year old jeep, with the wrong gears, is much more enjoyable to drive on the highway.
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Unread 12-29-2013, 10:44 AM   #59
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Maybe so, but it's pretty bad that my 15 year old jeep, with the wrong gears, is much more enjoyable to drive on the highway.
I really enjoyed driving my '47 Ford coupe, three speed/two door/ 18 mpg-

Wakeup !

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Unread 12-29-2013, 02:49 PM   #60
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Maybe so, but it's pretty bad that my 15 year old jeep, with the wrong gears, is much more enjoyable to drive on the highway.
While I'm with you, we can't all be expected to enjoy and prefer driving a glorified tractor around town. I like weird silly vehicles and JKs just aren't as weird and silly as what came before. JKs look tougher and tough guys like tough guy things. But that is whole different topic.

Complaining about the 3.8 is kind of pointless when Jeep owners have always spent so much time and money to improve the inherent problems and deficiencies of every single model of Jeep ever made. JKs don't come with 4 cylinder engines, so the 3.8 could be argued to be an overall improvement to the line regardless of whatever issues it might have.

These discussions/debates/arguments are all fundamentally based on what a real Jeep should be. No one knows the answer. At least we have options.
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