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Unread 12-23-2013, 08:54 AM   #31
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It is tough being smooth with this thing. But, 21.05 mpg's at todays fill up, with winter fuel. Couldn't come close to that in the TJ.

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Unread 12-23-2013, 10:04 AM   #32
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I say as long as the driver does the Jeep wave I'm good with whatever Jeep they are driving.
Don't you just hate when JK owners don't wave?!?!

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Unread 12-23-2013, 05:27 PM   #33
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I am not that old. Haha only 34. My jk is my dd and family vehicle.
Why does your profile say 73. Giving false info here is a crime.
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Unread 12-23-2013, 05:29 PM   #34
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Why does your profile say 73. Giving false info here is a crime.
I am new to the forum and just put a profile together real quick.
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Unread 12-23-2013, 05:32 PM   #35
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Im not even gonna say anything since JK owners are so sensitive to criticism
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Unread 12-23-2013, 05:42 PM   #36
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Welcome and lets get that corrected. Thanks
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Unread 12-23-2013, 06:02 PM   #37
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I have a JK and rarely get the jeep wave from any wrangler
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Unread 12-23-2013, 06:22 PM   #38
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I will throw in my two cents. Jks are just as capable as any of the others. That being said I just don't like the way they look. The squared off doors the sloped nose. the size of the ******* shifter knob. all petty reasons but there is a reason I drive a TJ. Its the vehicle I fell in love with many years ago. Drive what you like.
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Unread 12-24-2013, 03:29 AM   #39
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I own a 2004 Jeep Wrangler TJ.
I love it.
I heard the In-Line 6 engine is nearly bulletproof. Can't kill it.
I hear the new jeep wranglers are nothing like they use to be.
How do you all feel about it?
I loved my TJ too and all my Jeeps before that ... then I got a JK and then another and the love affair continues.

Nothing is bulletproof if you get a big enough bullet. The 4.0 was good enough in its day.

Wranglers truly are nothing like they used to be. They are better. They are also bigger which is good most of the time...

The question is "How do you feel about it?". The answer is simple. If you're happy then keep the TJ. If you want something better get a JK.
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Unread 12-24-2013, 03:36 AM   #40
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I have a love/hate relationship with my TJ. Something is always breaking or screwing up but at the end of the day I can't help but sit back and smile. I know I'll fall in love with it all over again once I get the suspension and steering how I want it. I have only had the opportunity to drive my fathers new 2013 10AR once, but it drives a hell of a lot better than my TJ. It is nice to ride in and very roomy, but it's still not my TJ and I don't think I could enjoy it quite the same. I'd be too afraid of damaging it on the trails I have no problem taking my TJ up. That said, the thing looks killer.
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Unread 12-24-2013, 05:51 AM   #41
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You don't have a Dana 35 up front.
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Unread 12-24-2013, 12:26 PM   #42
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Wranglers truly are nothing like they used to be. They are better. They are also bigger which is good most of the time...
Aside from a larger waist line, being fatter and having some new creature comforts - I dont see how they are "Better". They are still just as quirky as any other jeep, with a laundry list of issues that come with the Jeep name.
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Unread 12-26-2013, 07:38 PM   #43
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Aside from a larger waist line, being fatter and having some new creature comforts - I dont see how they are "Better". They are still just as quirky as any other jeep, with a laundry list of issues that come with the Jeep name.
I owned two great TJs but if you can't see the forest for the trees ... The Wrangler is designed as an both an ON Road and Off Road vehicle. The vast majority of Wranglers spend the vast majority of time on the road. The JK is clearly a better vehicle on the road. If you're not convinced drive one on a long trip above 60-70 MPH.

What you call fatter really is a product of being bigger. Off the road bigger is better otherwise most of the threads would about going down from 32" stock tire to a minuscule 20" on 12" rims. Bigger is an advantage most of the time off road.

I must agree with your last statement, JKs still do have a laundry list of issues, although it is getting shorter, so I guess it must be real Jeep. If we were talking about Harley's we'd be comparing Panheads to StreetGlides. The great thing is that we can choose either one.
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Unread 12-26-2013, 09:13 PM   #44
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The 4.0 had to be one of the most overrated engines ever produced. I'm so tired of hearing it called bulletproof, etc. I drive one everyday and would classify it as adequate. It's not bad but it doesn't deserve the worship it receives.
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Unread 12-26-2013, 10:06 PM   #45
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The 4.0 had to be one of the most overrated engines ever produced. It's not bad but it doesn't deserve the worship it receives.
Neither do minivan engines
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