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Unread 04-03-2013, 12:55 PM   #1
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Death Wobble

Contacted the National Highway Safety Traffic Administration to put in a complaiont about the death wobble. I have been trying to fix this problem with my 2007 Jeep Wrangler four door for two years. The NHTSA opened a case against Jeep Nov. 18, 2010, the engineers feel there should be a recall. Jeep refused the recall and the case was closed on Feb 16 , 2011 and reopened the same day again trying to get JEEP to recall, that was closed and reopened on Sept. 27, 2012. JEEP did put out a Technical Bulletin but the engineers with the NHTSA are persuing to get the recall put through. The complaints are from the JEEP Wrangler 2006-2010 and the JEEP Patriot 2006-2010. IF YOU HAVE THIS DEATH WOBBLE PROBLEM CALL IN YOUR COMPLAINT TO THE NHTSA 888-327-4236. The more complaints on file the sooner JEEP will be forced to recall these models!!!
I have replaced my stablizer bar three times, my ball joints, my brakes, my calipers, my tires, five front end alignments and recently JEEP wanted to replace my ball joints again, my drive shaft and stablizer bar once again.

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Unread 04-03-2013, 01:03 PM   #2
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DW is a natural thing that all solid axle vehicles can experience when front end parts start to wear. This is nothing that DC can fix with a recall. Encouraging further government intrusion in a topic like this is much more likely to have downside than upside.

Oh, and your 2007 is a JK not a TJ.
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Unread 04-03-2013, 01:21 PM   #3
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Op, what modifications have you done to your Jeep?
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Unread 04-03-2013, 02:04 PM   #4
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So you've really not done anything to cure the death wobble then.

Personally, I think Jeep should smack you in the mouth with a torque wrench for being an idiot.

Go replace your stabilizer again (which isn't even needed TBH). Then try an actual fix.
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Unread 04-03-2013, 03:01 PM   #5
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death wobble

Do a search for jeep death wobble and you will find a lot of info on it. Hope this
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Unread 04-03-2013, 03:24 PM   #6
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Contacted the National Highway Safety Traffic Administration to put in a complaiont about the death wobble. I have been trying to fix this problem with my 2007 Jeep Wrangler four door for two years. The NHTSA opened a case against Jeep Nov. 18, 2010, the engineers feel there should be a recall. Jeep refused the recall and the case was closed on Feb 16 , 2011 and reopened the same day again trying to get JEEP to recall, that was closed and reopened on Sept. 27, 2012. JEEP did put out a Technical Bulletin but the engineers with the NHTSA are persuing to get the recall put through. The complaints are from the JEEP Wrangler 2006-2010 and the JEEP Patriot 2006-2010. IF YOU HAVE THIS DEATH WOBBLE PROBLEM CALL IN YOUR COMPLAINT TO THE NHTSA 888-327-4236. The more complaints on file the sooner JEEP will be forced to recall these models!!!
I have replaced my stablizer bar three times, my ball joints, my brakes, my calipers, my tires, five front end alignments and recently JEEP wanted to replace my ball joints again, my drive shaft and stablizer bar once again.

A bit confused about your post.

1. I am assuming that the 2006-2010 Wrangler was a typo and you meant 2007-2010

2. As another poster stated, what mods have you done to your Jeep?

3. Have you had Jeep take a look at your specific Jeep? Going through steering components that fast leads me to believe that it was either in a wreck and you have some screwy geometry or you just got a lemon (it happens.)

Would love to know the answer to the above questions as well as any other information that may be relevant. Just coming in here ranting doesn't really educate the masses...so to speak.
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Hmmm, first post by the OP containing several inaccurate statements. I wonder what the complaint looks like? Oh, and yeah, I definitely want to know if anything has been modified from stock. That'll kill any liability on Chrysler's part in a heartbeat.
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Unread 04-03-2013, 03:47 PM   #8
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Death wobble. Funny name for something that I have not heard of anyone ever resulting in death. I have been in a Jeep since 75, 1975.... I have had the FIsh tail of death from towing things I should have NOT. People die from that. not just in Jeeps.

OP has a 6+ year Jeep with worn out parts. Wants BIG brother to fix it. I Know who you voted for as well.
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Unread 04-03-2013, 08:16 PM   #9
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How high is your skyjacker lift? Also, have your 20" rims been balanced properly? What tires are you running?

You can't place blame on Jeep if you've used after market parts. Most of the cases of DW are due to an improper setup and or poor quality after market parts. The other few that have had a DW, but are still stock, is due to worn out parts. I, personally, have never heard of a new, stock Jeep having DW. I'm not saying it can't happen, I've just not seen a case.
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Unread 04-03-2013, 10:18 PM   #10
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DW is a natural thing that all solid axle vehicles can experience when front end parts start to wear. This is nothing that DC can fix with a recall. Encouraging further government intrusion in a topic like this is much more likely to have downside than upside.

Oh, and your 2007 is a JK not a TJ.
Awesome response! 100% spot on.
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Unread 04-04-2013, 12:38 AM   #11
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I actually had some interesting input about the setup on the jk where people are putting in a shouldered bolt and why Chrysler may have decided against it.

I run a lot of parts that have to withstand tremendous force we are talking in excess of 3 million ft/lbs. They don't use a shoulder bolt when the assembly is complete because where the thread meets the shoulder it can cause a fracture point.

However, the parts we have designed to fail or break at the bolts all use shoulder bolts and they use them because they fail right at the point where the thread meets the shoulder.

I asked one of our engineers about it and he confirmed the reason. I'm not going to say for a fact this is why they use a completely threaded bolt, but it could be a possibility.
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Unread 04-04-2013, 03:39 AM   #12
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Wow.
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Mr. Madison, what you've just said ... is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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Unread 04-04-2013, 09:51 AM   #14
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....at least you get points for the most creative thread with the title of "Death Wobble" that's been on the forum in a long time...????

Just digging at the bottom of the optimism barrel here....
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Unread 04-04-2013, 01:48 PM   #15
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When I got my '06 tj it had "two" steering stabilizers and "death wobble". Replaced a bent tie rod and both tie rod ends and both steering stabilizers with one and adjusted the toe-in and most of it went away. I could still feel it at around 48 mph so I kept looking. Discovered that my track bar conection on the axel side had wobbled out so I drilled out the hole and put in a 7/16" bolt and fixed that problem, then noticed that my control arm bushings were more like sponges, replaced them and no mo wobble! Just worn out parts that regular maintenance, that should have been done by the previous owner, would have prevented.
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