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Unread 12-27-2011, 10:53 AM   #1
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DANA 30 tuff enough to be locked??

Hey guys just wanted your thoughts on if the stock DANA 30 in my YJ would be tough enough to have a locker/limited slip dropped in? I will be putting 33s on it and will have a locked ford 9" in the rear. My primary goal is to not have the most badass looking jeep on the block but to have one that is built right and has durability as well as capability but at the same time is also within a reasonably priced budget. My worry is that if I decide to keep my front axle it will snap on me if I drop a locker in there. I have also thought that a limited slip would be a good option to put up front because there is really nothing that could go wrong with that unlike a selectable locker. So your thoughts on that would be helpful as well. I do not do any real hardcore rock climbing with it, but I want to build something that can take me anywhere and get me back with minimal issues. I would almost rather keep the DANA 30 and maybe upgrade the components in it rather that have to go through the trouble and the money of swapping in a DANA 44 or something. But wanted some input from the guys.

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Unread 12-27-2011, 10:58 AM   #2
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my dirty 30 is locked on 33x12.5s and still holding up great. and i wheel the crap out of my xj
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Unread 12-27-2011, 10:58 AM   #3
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I'd look into a detroit setup or something similar to that. That's exactly what I'm running on my d30 on 33's. It was on 35's for a year before that with some pretty hard wheeling. For me personally it has held up great, I'm sure others will chime in on this.

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Unread 12-27-2011, 11:38 AM   #4
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i have a d30 in the front of my tj, and have snapped 1 pass shaft and 2 driver shafts, im on 33/11.50 but all 3 times i had the steering to full lock and some excessive skinny pedal
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Unread 12-27-2011, 11:41 AM   #5
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Hey guys just wanted your thoughts on if the stock DANA 30 in my YJ would be tough enough to have a locker/limited slip dropped in? I will be putting 33s on it and will have a locked ford 9" in the rear. My primary goal is to not have the most badass looking jeep on the block but to have one that is built right and has durability as well as capability but at the same time is also within a reasonably priced budget. My worry is that if I decide to keep my front axle it will snap on me if I drop a locker in there. I have also thought that a limited slip would be a good option to put up front because there is really nothing that could go wrong with that unlike a selectable locker. So your thoughts on that would be helpful as well. I do not do any real hardcore rock climbing with it, but I want to build something that can take me anywhere and get me back with minimal issues. I would almost rather keep the DANA 30 and maybe upgrade the components in it rather that have to go through the trouble and the money of swapping in a DANA 44 or something. But wanted some input from the guys.

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do what I did..... Im kinda in the smae boat, I like my 30 nostalga maybe .... lol.... it may or may not, who the hell knows, instead of dropping 4-700 bills fora locker and install...... I went posi lok and welded it...

now I have a selectable locker.....

I shift the tcase into 4x4, I get power to my driver side wheel all the time so kinda like normal 4x4, only no slip, so you feel it pull..... pull the posi button and now I got locked in the front..... all told it cost 200 bucks for hte popsi kit, (which yuou can do on your own) there are write ups about it.... and about 5 welding rods.....

if it breaks Im out a posi kit.... whippy ****

I will say this, when I pull my button..... hehe..... that ***** climbs and goes anywhere
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Unread 12-27-2011, 11:47 AM   #6
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i have a d30 in the front of my tj, and have snapped 1 pass shaft and 2 driver shafts, im on 33/11.50 but all 3 times i had the steering to full lock and some excessive skinny pedal
for the record... I run this



thru stuff liek this...









its not alot of rocks, but major mud, hard trails, logs, trees, mud, more mud, and some more mud....

I have yet to break a front welded or otherwise, Im not hard on the skinny peddle, find I dont need to be with the TSL, it just idles thru most ****, love my TSL
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Unread 12-27-2011, 12:21 PM   #7
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do what I did..... Im kinda in the smae boat, I like my 30 nostalga maybe .... lol.... it may or may not, who the hell knows, instead of dropping 4-700 bills fora locker and install...... I went posi lok and welded it...

now I have a selectable locker.....

I shift the tcase into 4x4, I get power to my driver side wheel all the time so kinda like normal 4x4, only no slip, so you feel it pull..... pull the posi button and now I got locked in the front..... all told it cost 200 bucks for hte popsi kit, (which yuou can do on your own) there are write ups about it.... and about 5 welding rods.....

if it breaks Im out a posi kit.... whippy ****

I will say this, when I pull my button..... hehe..... that ***** climbs and goes anywhere
That's an option I haven't considered. One question I have is with an open carrier when driving does the front driveshaft to the tcase spin with the front tires or is it stationary/disengaged from the front axle. My concern is that when welded will the front driveshaft be whipping around in the tcase causing some extra wear n tear? I'm guessing that with a welded spider/locker/limited slip the front driveshaft will turn with the tires even with the 4wd disengaged. Is that correct?
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Unread 12-27-2011, 12:35 PM   #8
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That's an option I haven't considered. One question I have is with an open carrier when driving does the front driveshaft to the tcase spin with the front tires or is it stationary/disengaged from the front axle. My concern is that when welded will the front driveshaft be whipping around in the tcase causing some extra wear n tear? I'm guessing that with a welded spider/locker/limited slip the front driveshaft will turn with the tires even with the 4wd disengaged. Is that correct?
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if your tcase is in 2wd you in 2wd.....

whjen you shift to 4x4.... you have power to the driver side tire all the time, with open or limited slip, they are different BTW, you wont notice as the limited slipp will do just that slip.... when its welded it slips no more, you WILL feel teh power going to hte driver side fornt tire.......

pull the posi and now you habe power to BOTH front tires, and they both chew..... no slippage AT ALL..... I like this cause it dont engage on its own, so I can DD my jeep and its not to bad, I am in snow 8 month a year. lockers and snow and highway speeds DONT MIX..... I go wheeling and I can go thru most things in regular 4x4, If Im getting into trouble, or sense trouble I can lock it in before or during the trouble... and away I go....


yes my driveshaft spins 24/7, I dont notice it at all, its balanced.... wear and tear is overrated...... if your using your rig, your ujoints and **** are replaced LOING before any wear and tear is gonna do them in.....and there are very few vehicles these days with front and read diffs, that dont spinn hubs and the like 24/7....

if you open or limited, NO your D/S wont spin when in 2wd.....

all the Posi kit does is slid the collar over to engage the pass side axle.... until you pull the posi cable the collar wont slid so you wont have it locked till you pull hte cable..... once engaged, and the spiders welded, there can be no slipping, if one tire is turning the other has to, or then you have problems hehe
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Unread 12-27-2011, 01:02 PM   #9
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Go ahead and lock it. Plenty of people running locked D30's around here. As long as you use proper throttle management and don't go WOT crazy (like some less knowledgeable people) then you will be perfectly fine.
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I had a spartan in my old Cherokee with TJ shafts and I snapped both on one trip and the short side on the next. Granted they were all my fault, but it just shows you have to show some constraint and don't get irritated and smash the throttle.
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Unread 12-27-2011, 07:14 PM   #11
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lose the CAD axle and run 1 piece shafts and it will live with 33-35in tires might snap a shaft or 2 but thats part of wheeling. I'm locked with a lock right and alloys running 33 13/5 pitbulls no snapped shafts yet
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Unread 12-29-2011, 01:46 PM   #13
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Detroit TruTrac in a HP30 with 35s and stock shafts - no issues here.
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Unread 12-29-2011, 02:31 PM   #14
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ECTED locker with chromo shafts and running 36's. Mine seems to be holding up except my stock tie rod ends just finally gave out. Your HP30 should be fine.
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Unread 12-29-2011, 03:23 PM   #15
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Super 30 with an ARB and a truss. 33x12.50's
I still don't "bind" it up.(turning on the locker and turning the steering wheel to full, then gassing it, it's worst is going backwards).
I wheel hard. Other than binding it up, I don't worry too much.
Remember a selectable locker is not an automatic locker. A selectable locker engaged is a spool.
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