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Unread 11-27-2008, 10:48 PM   #1
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cheap smaller lift ideas needed

Recently bought an 04 jeep wrangler....I need some quick ideas on how to put a couple inches on my baby.

So uh...should i do shackles? or spacers? anything!!!
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Unread 11-27-2008, 10:50 PM   #2
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You need to learn more about your jeep first. Why are you trying to lift it? These jeeps have coil springs so spacers are the cheapest way. shackles are impossible
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Unread 11-27-2008, 11:06 PM   #3
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shackles on the back are impossible when i look under i see where they would be possible.

and many other people say that they have them.....
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Unread 11-27-2008, 11:08 PM   #4
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^^ you can only use shackles on a leaf spring vehicle, you have coil springs. Coil spacers, 1" body lift would get you a little
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Unread 11-28-2008, 12:46 PM   #5
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you guys are to young to remember, but way back there use to be a spacer that you would screw into the side of the spring to raise your car up a little. the were a little bigger than a golf ball if i remember right.
it was threaded like a screw and was turned into the coil with a 1/2 drive rachet. can you imagine how many broken windows with lose things flying out on the freeway!
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Unread 11-28-2008, 12:53 PM   #6
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Recently bought an 04 jeep wrangler....I need some quick ideas on how to put a couple inches on my baby.

So uh...should i do shackles? or spacers? anything!!!
thanks
Budget coil spacers are fairly cheap. You can usually get a couple of inches there. You could also get an inch or two from a body lift. Hockey pucks under your seats will make you feel a little taller too...
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Unread 11-28-2008, 12:59 PM   #7
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Shackles on a TJ

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shackles on the back are impossible when i look under i see where they would be possible.

and many other people say that they have them.....
Dont get what you mean about when you look under and see they would be possible...? And the other people who tell you that you have them are mistaken. Coil-sprung suspensions have no shackles. Shackles are on the end of LEAF spring packs, and allow for deflection, etc..
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Unread 11-28-2008, 01:02 PM   #8
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Recently bought an 04 jeep wrangler....I need some quick ideas on how to put a couple inches on my baby.

So uh...should i do shackles? or spacers? anything!!!
thanks
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Unread 11-28-2008, 01:05 PM   #9
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Coil spacers

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you guys are to young to remember, but way back there use to be a spacer that you would screw into the side of the spring to raise your car up a little. the were a little bigger than a golf ball if i remember right.
it was threaded like a screw and was turned into the coil with a 1/2 drive rachet. can you imagine how many broken windows with lose things flying out on the freeway!
Yeah I remember those. Boo-hiss... They were okay so long as you werent actually driving the vehicle. Dont some states have laws against those things?
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Unread 11-29-2008, 04:41 PM   #10
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you guys are to young to remember, but way back there use to be a spacer that you would screw into the side of the spring to raise your car up a little. the were a little bigger than a golf ball if i remember right.
it was threaded like a screw and was turned into the coil with a 1/2 drive rachet. can you imagine how many broken windows with lose things flying out on the freeway!
oh no... i remember those, they never seemed right for ANYTHING
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Unread 11-29-2008, 05:50 PM   #11
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As previously mentioned, shackles are only for leaf-spring suspensions. You have coil springs. Also, it is stupid to lift the jeep just to lift it (in my opinion). Why do you want to lift it? Tire clearance? Just for the "cool" factor? That factor will disappear when you realize what lifting is actually for. If you have stock tires, you already have enough clearance and bump stop length. Why raise the center of gravity more than it needs to go? That's why you see trimmed fenders, tube fenders, highline, etc.....to create more room for larger tires without having to lift the vehicle. Ideally (to an extent), you want the biggest tire possible with the smallest amount of actual lift possible, while still having adequate up and down travel clearance. Do some research before you just spend money to spend money.
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Unread 11-30-2008, 09:54 AM   #12
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you guys are to young to remember, but way back there use to be a spacer that you would screw into the side of the spring to raise your car up a little. the were a little bigger than a golf ball if i remember right.
it was threaded like a screw and was turned into the coil with a 1/2 drive rachet. can you imagine how many broken windows with lose things flying out on the freeway!
I'm old enough to remember (59). What a great way to introduce high local stress into your coil springs. The incredible stupidity of people who wanted their cars to look 'set up' but didn't want to actually spend the money to do it correctly.
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Unread 12-02-2008, 11:25 AM   #13
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Yeah sorry when I looked at what I thought were leaf springs it was in the dark.
And yea im taking up so i can play in the mud with bigger tires.....call me what you want, but I love to play.
Im new to jeeps so take it easy on me.
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Unread 12-02-2008, 12:21 PM   #14
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To expand on imped4now's advice, unless you are rock crawling where high departure and break angles are critical the ideal set up is more tire, less lift. It serves a couple of purposes-lowers your center of gravity which helps with not only fuel economy but with everyday driving such as sharp turns(think how low porsches are, interstate driving(you have a shorter brick vs a really tall brick on the road) which will help with wind resistance etc. I don't rock crawl but I, like you, love playing in the mud. Here, what you are looking for is a nice wide tire with lots of grip that will help get you through the thick stuff. If you can lift your Jeep and inch and get 32 or 33" tires then that's where I would spend my money as well as decent tow points, front and rear as well as a solid tow strap. just my .02$
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Unread 12-03-2008, 10:21 AM   #15
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man. see i like how your nice about it haha.
and thanks for the advice sounds great man.
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