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post #1 of 11 Old 07-20-2013, 06:54 PM Thread Starter
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Break In Oil

My brother has a new Patriot and was told that they do use a break in oil! I thought this was something that was done away with years ago. Has anyone else ever heard of this??

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post #2 of 11 Old 07-20-2013, 10:17 PM
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No need to, as it's already done at the factory. I would however change the oil at 1.5k.
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post #3 of 11 Old 07-22-2013, 09:45 PM
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the break in oils that are made today are intended for the older engines with flat tappet camshafts. the zinc forms a shock buffer coating on the lobes. it is also very good at ruining cats and emmision systems of a modern car.

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Just wanted to inquire about something as well, seeing as how JBTJ said to change at 1500 ... is that necessary?, i talked to my service tech at my dealer that i bought my 2013 Jk from and he said first oil change should be normal, around 5000km's. Just checking out of curiousity, as I'm just over 2000 km's. (not miles)
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post #5 of 11 Old 07-25-2013, 03:56 PM
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it is also very good at ruining cats and emmision systems of a modern car.
That's only a problem if you are burning oil
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I read an article that Blackstone Laboratory tested oils and found that only Honda uses a break-in additive (molybdenum-disulfide) from the factory. The lab said to follow what the owners manual states for changes for the first change. It definitely can't hurt to change it early. I think the focus should be put more into actually breaking in the engine as stated in the owners manual. I'm sure very few people leaving the dealership even know about breaking in a new engine. My WRX is the only car it was mentioned to carefully break-in. Some will argue the oil should be changed to remove any metal particles, but the filter will catch the small amount avoiding any internal engine damage. It's an opinion thing so one should do what makes them feel good.
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post #7 of 11 Old 07-25-2013, 05:08 PM
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Don't try to second guess the manufacturer. A lot of expertise goes into their oil advice.

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Don't try to second guess the manufacturer. A lot of expertise goes into their oil advice.
Just as a lot of expertise went into using the Dana 35. Ya. I'm pretty sure the manufacturers expertise goes into looking at the bottom line.

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post #9 of 11 Old 07-26-2013, 05:52 AM
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Just as a lot of expertise went into using the Dana 35. Ya. I'm pretty sure the manufacturers expertise goes into looking at the bottom line.
That may be true, but since the customer is paying for the oil, and any failure costs them in warranty repairs, I doubt 'cheaping out' is a factor here.


BTW if you read some of the tech papers by engineers at the manufacturers, or the American Petroleum Institute, you get a feel for how much expertise and testing is involved.

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Just wanted to inquire about something as well, seeing as how JBTJ said to change at 1500 ... is that necessary?, i talked to my service tech at my dealer that i bought my 2013 Jk from and he said first oil change should be normal, around 5000km's. Just checking out of curiousity, as I'm just over 2000 km's. (not miles)
I did my first change at about 8000 km (almost all highway so the light hadn't even come on yet). I really don't think its necessary to do a quick first oil change. If that was a harder stretch on the oil I would have changed to around 5 like you said
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I did my first change at about 8000 km (almost all highway so the light hadn't even come on yet). I really don't think its necessary to do a quick first oil change. If that was a harder stretch on the oil I would have changed to around 5 like you said
thanks for the reply !

I don't do much highway mileage anyways so it'll go in for a 5k tune up.

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