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Unread 09-12-2012, 05:27 AM   #1
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Aluminum wheel lug nuts get stuck

I bought some used, Jeep aluminum wheels, supposedly off a 1995 model. I had new tires put on, and installed by a Goodyear dealer, on my 1997. One week later, I could not remove them. I had to bring it back to Goodyear, who actually had to torch off one nut! I was mad at them, thinking they put them on to tight. So I went home, undid all of them, greased them and torqued then to 80 ft pounds....the low end of the torque range spec. One month goes by, and I can't get them off!! Every one is very, VERY tight, breaking Craftsman sockets, etc. Another lug nut is rounded off and will have to be torched. I WILL say that the nuts have the stupid little sheet metal chrome caps. I won't use THEM again.

How do I get the wrecked nut off? Any trick tips or tools?

Why do these get so freakin' stuck?

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Unread 09-12-2012, 06:01 AM   #2
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The caps are the problem.

Hammer on the tightest socket you can get on there and use that to pull the damaged one off.
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Unread 09-12-2012, 11:57 AM   #3
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Yep. You need different nuts....those suck. Hammer on a heavy weight socket and then use a breaker bar. Keep turning until the bolt snaps or nut comes off. Been there done that....get new lug nuts.

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Unread 09-12-2012, 12:00 PM   #4
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For really stuck nuts I don't even bother to mess with them anymore.
My steel wheels don't have recesses for lugs so the only time I've ever gotten a stuck nut like that I just put the 4-way on the lug and jump on it to snap the stud right off.
I keep a supply of those things since they seem to like to self destruct.
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Unread 09-12-2012, 12:07 PM   #5
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...Why do these get so freakin' stuck?
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...greased them and torqued then to 80 ft pounds...
I wonder too.
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Unread 09-12-2012, 12:17 PM   #6
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Not sure. I had the same issues and swapped lug nuts and only had one do it so far afterwards and i think my buddy cross threaded that one. Shouldnt need anything like grease on the threads, maybe anti-seize, but I haven't ever used anything. Just tighten down and then retighten after a drive.

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Unread 09-12-2012, 12:18 PM   #7
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You said you had aluminum wheels?
That is probably part of the reason, dissimilar metals n all that.
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Unread 09-12-2012, 06:30 PM   #8
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Thanks guys. Yeah, I thought about dissimilar metals. I'm a boat mechanic; so that's why I used anti-corrosion grease. (We don't like anti-seize because that sometimes has metal material in it, that causes more harm than good around salt water.) I have seen things under salt water for a summer that have not gotton this stuck. Goodyear said it was the heat from the brakes. Dunno. Pretty discouraging, though. I like fixing the Jeep but I don't like fixing stupid things twice. Funny; I had a CJ5 with aluminum wheels, "back in the day," and I used to have to keep checking the torque on them, or they would come loose. I just don't get it.
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Unread 09-12-2012, 06:37 PM   #9
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greased them and torqued then to 80 ft pounds....the low end of the torque range spec.
Your whole issue.Those torque specs are for dry threads,using any type of lube on the treads you must decrease the torque by at least 25% if not a little more.

Naturally the right side should self tighten while the lest side will self-loosen just by the tire rotating and why most big trucks use left hand and right hand thread wheels studs/lugnuts.
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