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Unread 06-23-2013, 05:05 PM   #16
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I really do like the JKs, so I am not going to flame.
A paid off TJ that you do not worry about body damage priceless.
True story.
Went to a offroad park with 3 JKs and 1 TJ Rubicon.
We got to the first rock garden, they were all spotting each other. Trying to firgure out the best line ect.
I was last in the group.
I got in my Jeep, heard the guy who had invited me along that had one of the JKs, Um you guys might want to get out of the way.
Sometimes it is nice to not worry too much about body damage.

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Unread 06-23-2013, 05:15 PM   #17
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I have come to not really discuss JK issues with Jeep purists. As soon as the 4door came out they had/have a negative attitude towards the name JK just like they did with the YJ and their square headlights. Now having said that, I would take my old 07 JKU, and most certainly my 2013 JKUR, over my previous YJ any day of the week! Much more capable out of the box.

With an unlimited you will have the pro's and con's of having a longer wheel base BUT with the larger fender wells you can accommodate much larger tires to help overcome the cons of that wheelbase with little to no mods! The one thing I will completely agree with is that the aftermarket has us by the balls with mods and charge a small fortune for EVERYTHING!

BUT with a 2.5" budget boost lift, 1.5" wheel spacers if you keep factory wheels, trimmed fenders, slight trimming of pinch seams(easy to do for a novice wrencher), and a procal you can be ready for 37's in a JK($700 total)....not nearly that easy in a TJ. Also you will have D44's front and rear(D30 front in non-rubicons ) to support the larger tires. If you keep all the extra weight down, youll be fine, but the JK can get pretty fat fast with mods. If you get a 2012+ JK with the 3.6L engine and 3.73 or 4.10 gearing you wont HAVE to regear to accommodate up to 37" tires BUT an 07-11 JK with the 3.8L "minivan" motor WILL need a regear to have any power at speads over 35mph.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 07:10 PM   #18
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Buy a YJ. Lift it. Upgrade it. Wheel it. Enjoy the masses of savings you didn't have to spend on a TJ or JK parts cluster.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 07:31 PM   #19
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Iíve had/have two of each; TJs and JKs and loved them all. Proís and conís for each one but in the end they are all equal to me. Even my CJ can be added to my comments.

Too sit back and judge what Jeep is the best above all others is not truly a Jeep enthusiast in my eyes. I respect them all, new and old, modified or not.

Canít we just all get along?
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Unread 06-23-2013, 08:17 PM   #20
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Someone please explain the "minivan" term used to describe the JK engine.

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Unread 06-23-2013, 08:25 PM   #21
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Unread 06-23-2013, 08:29 PM   #22
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Someone please explain the "minivan" term used to describe the JK engine.

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The 3.8 engine used in the 2007-2011 JKs was also a minivan engine.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 08:36 PM   #23
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K. Thx. I thought it was worse issue. Thx for clearing it up.

That minivan engine has more power than my 180HP 4.0 that's 12 years old!

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Unread 06-23-2013, 09:37 PM   #24
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Test drive a JK. You'll love it or hate it. I'd keep the TJ if you decide on a JK. If the JKs end up with IFS it will be more in demand.

I enjoy reading all the JK hate. People stereotype all JK owners as being a bunch of **** sticks on the forums and then cry about not getting waves from JK owners. My fake Jeep and I have a ****ing blast up in the Colorado Rockies. Peace!
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Unread 06-23-2013, 09:58 PM   #25
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K. Thx. I thought it was worse issue. Thx for clearing it up.

That minivan engine has more power than my 180HP 4.0 that's 12 years old!

Jeep TJ 2001 4.0 5MT
Its the useable power, the motor has 19 more horsepower but it has a narrower torque band so it is not as good for using off road as the inline is.

The next thing you have to note is the JK has an curb weight of 3,760-4,340 lb wheras the TJ has a curb weight of 3,092-3,857 lb. (the 3,857 lb curb weight is the TJ Rubicon Unlimited) So that means the lowest of the low JK is almost as heavy as the TJ that has every bell and whistle stuck on it from the dealer. So that extra 10 hp is just to get the extra couple hundred pounds of jeep moving. Man how heavy would that thing be if it was all metal instead of being contracted out by Rubbermaid.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 09:58 PM   #26
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Test drive a JK. You'll love it or hate it. I'd keep the TJ if you decide on a JK. If the JKs end up with IFS it will be more in demand.

I enjoy reading all the JK hate. People stereotype all JK owners as being a bunch of **** sticks on the forums and then cry about not getting waves from JK owners. My fake Jeep and I have a ****ing blast up in the Colorado Rockies. Peace!
This. ..you have to drive one to know.

...jks don't have the same charm to me but they're still fun & are good with the doors/top off ...just see if a jk fits you OP & you should know

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Unread 06-23-2013, 10:11 PM   #27
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JK's have some benefits...I wouldn't want one though over a TJ

It's partially a personality thing...go drive one and see what you think. Personally, I think TJ's have a bit more charm and they feel more like you're in a Jeep.

Jk's are pretty quiet on the highway and are more car like...

I have had people ask me if I drive a "real Jeep" or a "new Jeep"...I don't hate on Jk's like some, but I still would take a YJ or TJ or LJ over one...Maybe I will want a 4 door when I'm old and have kids...but in addition to my TJ.

The 3.6L has power...but I love my straight 6 and not having an electronic throttle

I think it comes down to personality...JK's are cool..but I prefer TJ's...my buddy got a JK and loves it...

EDIT: I would rather be able to add an LJ into the mix before a 4 door if I could when I'm older
I also had a JK, now I dont. Simple . I have another TJ
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Unread 06-23-2013, 11:01 PM   #28
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Personally I would have to say go TJ. I have had two JK's a 4 door and most recently a 2 dr. I no longer have either and I purchased a 05 tj 4 banger that I will build my way. It is louder and has a more rough ride but in every sense to me the perfect Jeep I always wanted. I know that there are people out there that say it must have leaf springs to be a real Jeep, and there are people that say if it has the Jeep badge it is a real Jeep. What I say is find your taste, how you want to wheel, and make it your own. My opinion is where I landed with a TJ that I don't care to beat up and I wanted. 4 cyl so I could justify a v8 swap. But since opinions are like a** holes mine is farting out GO TJ.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 11:13 PM   #29
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I do not completely hate the JK. I am sorry for being mean. I just wish they would have introduced it as a new model and carried on with a TJ Wrangler sized and TJ/YJ/CJ lineage vehicle, freeing the JK to go hard top, IFS etc. as an upscale product blazing new ground.

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Unread 06-24-2013, 12:36 AM   #30
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I have a 2000 TJ and have test drove many JKs. I think for the daily driver aspect, a JK wins hands down in terms of practicality. That said, if you've already paid off the TJ, and don't DD your TJ then you've really nothing to fret over.

On that note, I daily drove my TJ on 35s for year(s) and loved it. Still, a JK provides more creature comforts. As 1222 said, they both have various pros and cons but in the end are more or less equals. There's nothing that you can do to one and not the other, given the right tools and skills. Find out what your needs are and decide whether the monthly payment is worth your actual needs as opposed to your monetary desires. The worst thing you can ever do is impulse buy, especially when you already have something you love. You'll realize it later on down the road and kick yourself in the *** the entire time you have the new vehicle, until you get something comparable to the former.

I traded my first vehicle, a 92' XJ, for a sports coupe I thought I "had to have."

Kicked myself in the *** until I stumbled upon this little gem.



5 years, 50,000 miles, and 12 states later, she's yet to do anything but leave me with a giant **** eating grin on my face at all times. Make damn sure you're not making the same mistake, and make certain of that BEFORE you trade her in.

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