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Unread 07-07-2013, 10:46 AM   #151
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Everybody is beating up on JEEPs, can't believe it.

Each series over the years brings its own high points and some deficiencies. But JEEP hands down is the most capable and modified worldwide and is I think the most popular.

I wheel with a mixed bag the occasional CJ, my YJ, the TJs and all the new JKs. I am always impressed with the capabilities of the various models.

The best part no matter what model there are enough mods out there to make it your very own very few are alike.

Yes I am addicted and my YJ and me will be together until the end. We are both slow and old but very capable.

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Unread 07-07-2013, 11:08 AM   #152
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Everybody is beating up on JEEPs, can't believe it.

Each series over the years brings its own high points and some deficiencies. But JEEP hands down is the most capable and modified worldwide and is I think the most popular.

I wheel with a mixed bag the occasional CJ, my YJ, the TJs and all the new JKs. I am always impressed with the capabilities of the various models.

The best part no matter what model there are enough mods out there to make it your very own very few are alike.

Yes I am addicted and my YJ and me will be together until the end. We are both slow and old but very capable.
Toyota/Lexus and Land Rover/Range Rover give Jeep a run for its money outside of the United States as far as popular off road vehicles go.
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Unread 07-07-2013, 02:23 PM   #153
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Toyota/Lexus and Land Rover/Range Rover give Jeep a run for its money outside of the United States as far as popular off road vehicles go.
Way to take a comment out of context.

Toyota and Land Rover even overseas, are still not modified anywhere near as extensively as Jeeps are. Internationally other brands may be more POPULAR (hell, even in the US Toyota outsells Jeep), but they're certainly not as heavily modified. This is due mostly to how easy and readily available modification is for a Jeep.

Jeeps will always be the go to platform for those that like a canvas to paint the picture they want, as opposed to buying a piece someone else has already painted.

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Unread 07-08-2013, 06:19 AM   #154
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Toyota/Lexus and Land Rover/Range Rover give Jeep a run for its money outside of the United States as far as popular off road vehicles go.


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Unread 07-08-2013, 10:29 AM   #155
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Advantages to jk over TJ.... None (unless getting groceries)

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Unread 07-08-2013, 12:52 PM   #156
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Clearly the only way to solve this it's for someone to test the two vehicles out. A tj with 33's and 3" lift and a jk with the same. Take then both offroad through various obstacles and see which one performs better...

Actually i doubt this would settle anything, but actually intensify this argument. It would be fun to watch the video though! :-)
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Unread 07-08-2013, 01:48 PM   #157
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You guys all crack me up. My jeep is the best because it beats the crap out of me and i am a man because of it...This is just a pissing contest plain and simple. I owned a YJ and now own a dreaded 4 door 2012 JK. If i was getting a Jeep that was a non DD i would still go JK. To run the same tires and lift on my YJ would be exponentially more expensive than on the JK. I also have no problems being comfortable in my vehicle and the JK gets the nod there. I do like the simplicity of the YJ though but i'll take the power, comfort and off road ability of the JK.
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Unread 07-08-2013, 06:07 PM   #158
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You guys all crack me up. My jeep is the best because it beats the crap out of me and i am a man because of it...This is just a pissing contest plain and simple. I owned a YJ and now own a dreaded 4 door 2012 JK. If i was getting a Jeep that was a non DD i would still go JK. To run the same tires and lift on my YJ would be exponentially more expensive than on the JK. I also have no problems being comfortable in my vehicle and the JK gets the nod there. I do like the simplicity of the YJ though but i'll take the power, comfort and off road ability of the JK.
we were comparing tjs and jks

tjs are much more comfortable than yjs, and much cheaper to run quality parts to get the desired tire size/lift height than yj's
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Unread 07-08-2013, 08:00 PM   #159
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we were comparing tjs and jks

tjs are much more comfortable than yjs, and much cheaper to run quality parts to get the desired tire size/lift height than yj's
This is true but the premise is the same. I don't think anyone would mistake a JK for anything but a Jeep which is what this boils down too. Creature comforts just have to be there to keep up with the market.
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Unread 07-08-2013, 11:42 PM   #160
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Kinda looks like a hummer with the 4 dr and top on.
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Unread 07-09-2013, 12:43 AM   #161
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Toyota/Lexus and Land Rover/Range Rover give Jeep a run for its money outside of the United States as far as popular off road vehicles go.
Very true. Jeep is big here that is about it. Everywhere else you see very few of them on the road. Why, because they are more expensive to buy and maintain than the other guys.

As to which I prefer a TJ over a JK. I would prefer both. I currently have a CJ, and a TJ wouldn't mind getting a JK. I would probably have to sell my 1977 Bronco. Wait that 1977 Bronco doesn't have any on board computers, oxygen sensors, or any of the other 15-20 items controling the idle. Nope I changed my mind. I prefer old school ;-)
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Unread 07-09-2013, 05:59 AM   #162
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I like the JKU's. A lot. But I will admit I find its odd that they changed the engine more than once...

I have had my '05 TJ Sport (shoulda bought a rubicon) since I bought it brand new. It's all paid off. And since the JK's are VERY expensive, and I have been spoiled by not having car payments, I won't be buying a JK anytime soon.

I still want one. But for me, I think it's wiser to just rebuild my TJ.

Plus, that gives me more money to finance my other hobbies. Guns
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Unread 07-09-2013, 07:19 AM   #163
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Kinda looks like a hummer with the 4 dr and top on.
The same demographic is buying it as well. When you ask them to go wheeling and they stair at their tires.....with a stupid look like "yes it has wheels, why wouldn't it"
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Unread 07-09-2013, 07:40 AM   #164
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I like the JKU's. A lot. But I will admit I find its odd that they changed the engine more than once...
The engine change wasn't necessarily done for Jeep. Chrysler Developed the 3.6 Pentastar back in 2009 and it made its debut in 2011 in several other vehicles before finding its way into the wrangler.
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Unread 07-09-2013, 09:43 AM   #165
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The engine change wasn't necessarily done for Jeep. Chrysler Developed the 3.6 Pentastar back in 2009 and it made its debut in 2011 in several other vehicles before finding its way into the wrangler.
Thank God. I like the 3.6 it is quite peppy.
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