I liked the 4x4groupbuy website, so I called them with a couple of questions about a set of Hutchinson beadlock wheels. Austin answered the phone, researched my questions, and called back quickly with good answers. So I placed an order. Then I received a request from Jason to send him photos of my license and credit card. When I called him to discuss the problem, both of their phones were disconnected. So I called VISA, and they said my card had in fact been charged over $2000 for the wheels. Next, I called Hutchinson, the manufacturer, and they said 4x4groupbuy may have collected their money from VISA, but they had not received an order for my wheels. Since I can't get in touch by phone, I sent one final email to 4x4groupbuy asking them to place the order with the manufacturer by Tuesday of next week, or I would have to contact VISA to contest the charge. My guess is that either these guys are in financial trouble, or that this is a part time business for them and they can't really manage it well.