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living_rain 11-23-2013 01:11 AM

Are They Truely Expensive??
 
So im seeing a lot of the "just empty every penny" phrase, and how jeeps require so much work. Theres two ways i see it, so if someone could correct/enlighten me on this topic as I am still trying to decide if a jeep is for me or not (yj or tj)

I ride downhill mountain bikes, and so my one way of thinking is that when people spend so much on jeeps is because they use em for offroading, ride em hard and stuff and thus, damage and repairs is inevitable. Its part of the hobby/sport.

Or are they actually just that constantly messed up? How can u say that they last forever and are a durable vehicle if its constantly breaking down?

WDNewman 11-23-2013 06:05 AM

Jeeps have a bad rap in that they have always received low marks from rating companies like Consumer Reports. The problems are not usually catastrophic in nature, being a rough idle, etc. After a while (most of time) problems will work themselves out and eventually get fixed. That being said Jeeps are best viewed as recreational vehicles that have the ability to be used as normal transportation also. Old jeeps (YJ TJ) require that the owner know his way around a wrench or have excess money.
Despite any and all problems, owners tend to fall in love with the things as time passes. Usually the complaints you see on the forum are from newbies who were expecting Honda like reliability from a used vehicle and didn't get it. After a few readings of these types of post you also begin to see that many of these people had no idea of what they were getting or what to look for while they were shopping.

Just my two cents.

dmill89 11-23-2013 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by living_rain (Post 17942602)
So im seeing a lot of the "just empty every penny" phrase, and how jeeps require so much work.

Or are they actually just that constantly messed up? How can u say that they last forever and are a durable vehicle if its constantly breaking down?

It depends on what you do with it and how you drive it. A stock Jeep that isn't wheeled hard can be very reliable and only require standard maintenance (the same as any other vehicle the same age).

If you start modifying things (lifts, bigger tires, armor, etc.) they can get expensive fast (note: mods/upgrades tend to become "addictive", once you start it can be difficult to stop), and if you wheel them hard things will inevitably break (often this becomes an excuse for more "upgrades).

dahreno 11-23-2013 10:55 AM

Bought my 2008 JKUR in 2007 , Have had no problems . I wheel the crap out of it . I think "just empty every pocket" comes from morons that don't really have any experience with jeeps , or do no maintenence on them . It may come from how much after market items there are for these gems also . I've probably got 10k in aftermarket junk on mine .

Nick05 11-23-2013 11:07 AM

when you first buy a jeep, expect to wrench or spend money to fix the jeep like you want it or to fix po's mistake, it happens. after the initial investment of buyin and fixin, if you keep it stock, you should be ok on expenses. if you buy one lifted, hope and pray that the po did it right, otherwise you could be in for fun with tryin to figure out how to undo the jerry riggin. also, if it is lifted already, make sure it is set up like you want it, otherwise you will be better off buyin a stock jeep and gettin it like you want it. if you do a lot of rough ridin in it, it will get expensive fast, otherwise you should be ok.

brownbagg 11-23-2013 11:20 AM

if you bought a brand new jeep and never did anything but go to store and work, never left the asphalt, never change out the little bitty tires, yea, they would hardly break, they basically good vehicle. but people like to climb trees with them, so they do break, but just like toyota, ford, chevy and all the other vehicle you climb trees with

Mike1212 11-23-2013 01:41 PM

It is like everything in life, it can be as expensive as you want to make it. If you are handy with a wrench or at least are willing to learn, it can save you a ton of money. The more you do it the more you learn. There are so many resources online and instructions that are availible that can really help you save hundreds to thousands of dollars. I would agree with a previous post that if you are looking for something, buy stock and add what you feel will be necessary for your individualized needs for going off road. This will get you familiarized with your new purchase and a better understanding of what is going on "under the hood". The bottom line is most custom parts you place on your jeep are going to be expensive for the most part, but it is up to you on how much you spend to maintain your new toy. My advice, don't buy something that is already done. The other person may not have payed enough attention to the details or may have missed something. It is a sketchy world out there and most of the time people are going to lie to you about one thing or another when trying to sell you something. It is more fun to do it yourself and then you learn something about your vehicle and don't have to take it in the the shop and make the noises to the people who are going to rob your wallet to fix it. High Risk, high reward!

living_rain 11-23-2013 03:18 PM

Ahhkay, seems like what i figured it was. So how hard is it to learn jeep mechanics? Will be able to get a book or start googling and ytubing things to figure out repairs and mods easily enough? I know almost nothing about vehicles right now, but im the kind of person that starts geeking out on a new hobby and then take it all in and learn with my hands.

One reason i want a jeep is the looks. I do plan to spend extra on mods. I wanna lift it and get some sick stuff for it, i just dont wanna be fixing lame broke things more than i would for a normal car of that similar age

living_rain 11-23-2013 03:20 PM

and for some reason i imagine an old jeep is easiee to fix than an old car cus of the larger parts market and jeep community...?

Jeffro06 11-23-2013 03:41 PM

Just about anything you'll ever need to fix on a Jeep can be learned here. I didn't consider myself much of a grease monkey before buying my YJ, but I did most repairs myself, as I have with my current TJ. My YJ was and my TJ is pretty reliable, most of my hands on is doing mods, or fixing something after wheeling...which isn't really all that often.

WDNewman 11-23-2013 06:25 PM

Some advice. Before you buy anything out there, learn ALL you can in here. Finding out what to avoid is much preferred to finding out how to repair the problem. Pick out the model you want, and learn all about it. This will prevent some dude from blowing smoke and selling you unrepairable junk.

Good luck and keep us posted.

dahreno 11-24-2013 09:02 PM

Old Jeeps are not always easier to work on , it depends on what you are doing and the availability of the parts . My newer Jeep almost never needs work , my old Jeep , Iv'e dumped tens of thousands of dollars into .I still have alot more money into my JKUR then my 61 Willys , but my Willys costs almost nothing to register , never needs smog , insurance is cheap , and at 500 h/p , one ton axles with 38" tires , it can be a blast to drive ! Oh , I can also walk all over the body and not leave dents !

IH8PEPL 11-24-2013 11:30 PM

"Speed is just a question of money. How fast do you want to go?"

They are a quirky vehicle... but no more expensive than any other car ive owned. They get pricy as you mod or beat on them. So far all the posts above have been excellent advice.

jerryjeeper 11-24-2013 11:44 PM

Jeeps are a true enigma for many people when it comes to trying to understand "How much do they cost". You can literally spend as much money as you want on accessories and modifications. The real challenge is to spend no more that you have to by understanding what you want from the Jeep in advance of starting modifications. There are a lot of accessory suppliers out there and thousands of products for you to buy, choose wisely. The most expensive mods are the ones you do over and over because you didn't plan or bought junk to do the mods. Doing most of the work yourself will greatly reduce the overall cost of modifications. The bottom line is that you can have a blast with your rig without spending a fortune. Plan and enjoy.


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