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11-22-2009, 06:32 PM
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looking at a 97 tomorro for my son . i've got some schooling but not enough jeep knowledge to be sure on something . the guy has his front shaft disconnected (i have yet to see jeep ) he says he was told it needs front ring and pinion . from what i've read ,the front ring and pinion turns regardless of shaft . this is what's puzzling ,if it were the ring gear or pinion , wouldn't it still be an issue with shaft disconnected ? he says it was chattering when shaft was connected . jeep is very clean in close ups so i'd like to pursue it . my thinking is it's a transfer case issue maybe . any thoughts?
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11-22-2009, 07:06 PM
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XJ on 37's
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Well, seeing as you never said what model of '97, I cant really help!
If he swapped the axles though, it may have 2 different ratio's in the front and rear.
List the model and as much info as possible and then we can guess for you.
Martin
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1998 XJ on 37's.JK Rubi axles with chromo shafts and ctm's, 4:1 transfer case, etc etc etc.The Cherylkee....
2003 Range Rover HSE, 4.4 Quad Cam.
1998 Range Rover 4.6 HSE
2000 4.7 4WD WJ with a rebuilt motor.
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11-22-2009, 07:15 PM
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it's a 97 4cyl. standard . believe it's a 5 spd. he's second owner. what would cause you to pull the front shaft on a tj?
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11-22-2009, 07:23 PM
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XJ on 37's
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Ahhhh ok, its a 4 banger TJ!! 
Now we all know the model.
Only reason I can think of that isnt too bad is that he swapped axles, and the new one has a different ratio than the old one.
Martin
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1998 XJ on 37's.JK Rubi axles with chromo shafts and ctm's, 4:1 transfer case, etc etc etc.The Cherylkee....
2003 Range Rover HSE, 4.4 Quad Cam.
1998 Range Rover 4.6 HSE
2000 4.7 4WD WJ with a rebuilt motor.
4.3/700r4/new frame buildup (YJ)....
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324622
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11-22-2009, 07:32 PM
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ok so you think he didnt know it was different ratio? if the ring and pinion were junk it'd be obvious though yeah?
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11-22-2009, 07:34 PM
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see he said when it was put into 4wd it would chatter . is it possible the ring and pinion are bad but only noticeable when under load?
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11-22-2009, 07:37 PM
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XJ on 37's
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Agreed, that if the r&p were trashed, it would make a noise regardless of the transfer case connection. On a disconnect axle (YJ's etc) it would not turn with the wheels, on a tj axle though, which is solid shafts either side, it would turn the r&p whenever the wheels are turning.
Does not make sense to me to disconnect the front shaft.
Unless it is a steal, I would pass and try for a 4.0 instead of the 4 banger, been there and done it. If everything worked flawlessly and it was in excellent shape, then maybe a 4 banger would be worth it.
It is your call, but something sounds fishy to me.....
Martin
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1998 XJ on 37's.JK Rubi axles with chromo shafts and ctm's, 4:1 transfer case, etc etc etc.The Cherylkee....
2003 Range Rover HSE, 4.4 Quad Cam.
1998 Range Rover 4.6 HSE
2000 4.7 4WD WJ with a rebuilt motor.
4.3/700r4/new frame buildup (YJ)....
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324622
Years to gain the hands on experience, and offer it freely.
Minutes to gain the knowledge from the internet, and quote it just as freely.
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11-22-2009, 07:40 PM
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XJ on 37's
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Quote:
Originally Posted by herbiehind
see he said when it was put into 4wd it would chatter . is it possible the ring and pinion are bad but only noticeable when under load?
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Here we are going in a different direction....
4wd will "chatter" on dry road when turning! It is meant to be used on "loose surfaces" where traction is not good.
So what exactly was he doing when it was "chattering"??
That is the question to ask...It may be fine, it may be a bad transfer case etc.
Martin
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1998 XJ on 37's.JK Rubi axles with chromo shafts and ctm's, 4:1 transfer case, etc etc etc.The Cherylkee....
2003 Range Rover HSE, 4.4 Quad Cam.
1998 Range Rover 4.6 HSE
2000 4.7 4WD WJ with a rebuilt motor.
4.3/700r4/new frame buildup (YJ)....
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324622
Years to gain the hands on experience, and offer it freely.
Minutes to gain the knowledge from the internet, and quote it just as freely.
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11-22-2009, 07:46 PM
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sure does sound funny . i'll know more tomorro . wish i could get photo from my desk top to post but i'm cp illiterate . it is an amazing looking jeep . i've been looking for a while and it's best so far . 5000.00 painted last year no rust on frame only used in summer and garaged .
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11-22-2009, 07:50 PM
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XJ on 37's
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Try to at least get the front drive shaft on it and see for yourself.
Hell, it could be a bad u joint in the shaft for all we know! 
Go look and then post up the results of your find.
Be sure to put the transfer case in all ranges though, and check for the front output spinning.
Martin
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1998 XJ on 37's.JK Rubi axles with chromo shafts and ctm's, 4:1 transfer case, etc etc etc.The Cherylkee....
2003 Range Rover HSE, 4.4 Quad Cam.
1998 Range Rover 4.6 HSE
2000 4.7 4WD WJ with a rebuilt motor.
4.3/700r4/new frame buildup (YJ)....
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324622
Years to gain the hands on experience, and offer it freely.
Minutes to gain the knowledge from the internet, and quote it just as freely.
Choose wisely!
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11-22-2009, 08:14 PM
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yeah sounds good thanks for all your time .
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11-23-2009, 04:24 PM
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passed on the 97. let the guy talk and he just kept diggin a hole . turns out pinion bearing was bad . no biggy but seein as how he worked at autobody shop, and boght the jeep from a young guy already lifted i just walked . i'll never know if i passed on a good one but had to follow my gut . lookin at a stock 98 tomorro .
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11-23-2009, 07:52 PM
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XJ on 37's
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I think you made the correct decision mate.
Martin
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1998 XJ on 37's.JK Rubi axles with chromo shafts and ctm's, 4:1 transfer case, etc etc etc.The Cherylkee....
2003 Range Rover HSE, 4.4 Quad Cam.
1998 Range Rover 4.6 HSE
2000 4.7 4WD WJ with a rebuilt motor.
4.3/700r4/new frame buildup (YJ)....
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324622
Years to gain the hands on experience, and offer it freely.
Minutes to gain the knowledge from the internet, and quote it just as freely.
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11-27-2009, 03:45 PM
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lookin at a 99 4.0l sunday for 4500.00 123000 miles . hard top , new brakes . just inspected . still on road . one owner vehicle . cross your fingers and give an amen !!! hope it's a good one . my kid is gonna have accident in his shorts when he sees this bad boy .
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