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post #1 of 22 Old 01-30-2010, 08:40 PM Thread Starter
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That will be expensive to fix... Should have used Duct Tape

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post #2 of 22 Old 01-30-2010, 11:25 PM
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holy **** thats crazy!!
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Huh, guess they can blame years of watchin the Duke boys for that.

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post #5 of 22 Old 01-31-2010, 12:35 AM
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yea mall curbs usually are not that big..

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post #6 of 22 Old 01-31-2010, 06:18 PM
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From the looks of the truck they weren't really hurting in the money department anyway but i still have to wonder what kind of install error could cause such a bad collapse....

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Has anyone else noticed that this exact truck is on the cover of four wheeler magazine this month? They brag about it's offroad ability and claim it's value at 300,000 dollars too. Can't find anything about it online but i read the article at advance auto today. I am 200 percent sure it is the same truck.

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Off road ability yet it can't clear a 8 inch rock?
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post #9 of 22 Old 02-05-2010, 10:37 AM
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Off road ability yet it can't clear a 8 inch rock?
In all fairness such a mistake can only be caused by poor installation. I believe the article discloses the name of the shop who worked on this truck.

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In all fairness such a mistake can only be caused by poor installation. I believe the article discloses the name of the shop who worked on this truck.
It's not the fact it feel apart. I don't think it could off road considering how the axles and a bunch of other things are so low. Even when it was working.
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It's not the fact it feel apart. I don't think it could off road considering how the axles and a bunch of other things are so low. Even when it was working.
I guess they are pretty low, but i took my old 72 offroad all the time and had no problems. The axles on it are pretty low.....


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Looking at other pics of this truck the coil overs mount with a single bolt passing though both, and not in double shear. Basically there's a thick tab off the axle, and the coil over eyes are on either side of it with one bolt through them both. Definitely NOT in ideal setup.
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post #14 of 22 Old 02-06-2010, 08:39 PM
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Found pic. See how one bolt on each corner has to deal with holding the weight of the truck (springs), as well as all the damping forces? Bad bad bad.


Making the mounts double shear for the bolts would make that junction easily 3 times as strong because it also removes the bending forces. I really can't believe it wasn't built that way from the beginning. Even the factory shock mounts on almost all vehicles are in double shear, and they don't even deal with carrying the weight of the vehicle like the coil over mounts do. Dumb dumb dumb!
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Found pic. See how one bolt on each corner has to deal with holding the weight of the truck (springs), as well as all the damping forces? Bad bad bad.


Making the mounts double shear for the bolts would make that junction easily 3 times as strong because it also removes the bending forces. I really can't believe it wasn't built that way from the beginning. Even the factory shock mounts on almost all vehicles are in double shear, and they don't even deal with carrying the weight of the vehicle like the coil over mounts do. Dumb dumb dumb!
Wow dude. You've got a great point. I can't believe so many magazines covered this truck. I guess it really shows how little people care about functionality versus looks these days....

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