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Unread 05-18-2013, 08:31 PM   #1
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Freak accident at Edmonton Topless Jeep day...

If this is the wrong forum, please move it.

This happened to a local club member (a club I recently joined; was hoping to meet this man) today.

Here is the link:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/story/2013/05/18/edmonton-spectator-killed-jeep-event.html


I was only there after it happened; but I didnt realize how bad it was... The guy posted on the facebook group (I wont post that out of his privacy; I know he is in rough shape right now) that he has no idea what happened... his clutch was in, and his brakes were engage (park brake and regular brakes).

I am not sure whats going to happen now; but the club has really pulled together for him. From what Ive seen he is an awesome guy; and this just was a freak accident. Had he known the girl was nearby he would not have attempted this, Im told; hes very safe-conscious. There is a candlelight vigil tonight for him and the girl; but I wont be able to make it (Im away from the city).

Im told by one person that his cousin was standing close to the girl who was crushed; and actually had her blood hit him; he is very traumatized.

In short, I just wanted everyone to know that these vehicles are awesome; but when people are posing, even something as 'safe' as this, do NOT go close to it unless you ABSOLUTELY have to.

If someone happens to start a support group or something for him and the girl; I will share it with Jeepforum. We are all 'jeepers' arent we? I know he needs all the support he can get right now.

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Unread 05-18-2013, 09:11 PM   #2
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Just saw the news report, terrible. Gotta keep safe distance.

http://globalnews.ca/news/573879/wom...oliver-square/
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Unread 05-19-2013, 09:30 PM   #3
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That's terrible. Jeep stacking is just so stupid, and now someone was killed from it. All those people around, and nobody saw it as a bad idea to stand close?
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Unread 05-19-2013, 10:00 PM   #4
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That's terrible. Jeep stacking is just so stupid, and now someone was killed from it. All those people around, and nobody saw it as a bad idea to stand close?
The tire crawling was done, they posed for photos, etc...it happened after.

The woman was not standing too close, the orange Jeep crossed the parking lot to collide with the silver Jeep.
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Unread 05-19-2013, 10:05 PM   #5
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The tire crawling was done, they posed for photos, etc...it happened after.

The woman was not standing too close, the orange Jeep crossed the parking lot to collide with the silver Jeep.
The jeep was still on the tire when it happened. The driver lost control somehow (he says he had the brakes, and clutch pressed; and it accelerated anyways).

On another note, a local news company (CTV) decided it was a GOOD idea to publish his name when the POLICE havent. They also posted his post on facebook; that has since been deleted. They are completely disgusting.
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Unread 05-19-2013, 10:10 PM   #6
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How can the Jeep be on the tire of one vehicle and crossing the parking lot to collide with another?

And yes, I checked out https://www.facebook.com/groups/ABJKOwners/ before all the posts were deleted. I read what he posted and was reported.
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Unread 05-19-2013, 10:14 PM   #7
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How can the Jeep be on the tire of one vehicle and crossing the parking lot to collide with another?

And yes, I checked out https://www.facebook.com/groups/ABJKOwners/ before all the posts were deleted. I read what he posted and was reported.
It lurched forward and hit the silver JK that the woman was sitting on. The silver JK clearly shows signs of a front end impact and of being pushed back.
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Unread 05-19-2013, 10:19 PM   #8
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It lurched forward and hit the silver JK that the woman was sitting on. The silver JK clearly shows signs of a front end impact and of being pushed back.
Understand that but the silver Jeep surely appeared to be in the next row over with a driving lane in between. You need about 4' to get down off someone's tire, not 20'.
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Unread 05-19-2013, 11:33 PM   #9
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Did you see this comment?

In the comments here: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...ting-jeep.html

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"...The second, and more importantly, is the driver himself. After he mounted the 2nd jeep as part of the stunt, he did as he said with the brakes and clutch, then turned off the vehicle, got out of the vehicle to pose of photos, and that's when something caused the vehicle to move out of control and do what it did that cause the fatality. The driver abandoned the vehicle to showboat for the fans taking pictures and was not in control of a vehicle that was left mounted in a hazardous position. It should have been safely dismounted before he got out of the vehicle to showboat for the crowd."

If that is the case...
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Unread 05-19-2013, 11:49 PM   #10
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Did you see this comment?

In the comments here: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...ting-jeep.html

IrishCanadian32
"...The second, and more importantly, is the driver himself. After he mounted the 2nd jeep as part of the stunt, he did as he said with the brakes and clutch, then turned off the vehicle, got out of the vehicle to pose of photos, and that's when something caused the vehicle to move out of control and do what it did that cause the fatality. The driver abandoned the vehicle to showboat for the fans taking pictures and was not in control of a vehicle that was left mounted in a hazardous position. It should have been safely dismounted before he got out of the vehicle to showboat for the crowd."

If that is the case...
Like I said, the driver said that did NOT happen, nor did the wtinesses.
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Unread 05-20-2013, 12:34 AM   #11
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The investigation will rule out what did not happen to determine what most likely happened.

I know that we crawl tires quite often and it is in fact quite safe. Never once has the crawling vehicle needed more than a few feet to roll off the other vehicles tire. I will say that we don't typically get out of the vehicles while they are stacked.

Just as everyone else, I'm desperate to understand this situation fully.
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Unread 05-21-2013, 03:38 PM   #12
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The investigation will rule out what did not happen to determine what most likely happened.

I know that we crawl tires quite often and it is in fact quite safe. Never once has the crawling vehicle needed more than a few feet to roll off the other vehicles tire. I will say that we don't typically get out of the vehicles while they are stacked.

Just as everyone else, I'm desperate to understand this situation fully.
New dumb comment. It's not safe. yes it happens a lot and very few injuries happen. People need to be away from the vehicles. The driver is protected by the vehicle/roll cage. Someone standing and watching is not. It may only take a couple of feet to safely get away, but if a vehicle flips it can easily roll 10-15 feet.

No jeep activity is safe. There are things we can do to make it safer. There's a reason people shouldn't stand or sit on the trails next to a vehicle trying to crawl something that could cause the vehicle to roll over or slide suddenly.
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Unread 05-21-2013, 06:49 PM   #13
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Here is a video and footage of the stunt before it goes bad. At .41 seconds in you can see the female on the roof of the silver Jeep across the parking lot by the sign.
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Unread 05-22-2013, 01:49 AM   #14
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New dumb comment. It's not safe. yes it happens a lot and very few injuries happen. People need to be away from the vehicles. The driver is protected by the vehicle/roll cage. Someone standing and watching is not. It may only take a couple of feet to safely get away, but if a vehicle flips it can easily roll 10-15 feet.

No jeep activity is safe. There are things we can do to make it safer. There's a reason people shouldn't stand or sit on the trails next to a vehicle trying to crawl something that could cause the vehicle to roll over or slide suddenly.
If mechanical failure...the accident could have happened anywhere.

How many of these have you read about?

http://www.jkowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47913
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Unread 05-22-2013, 09:26 AM   #15
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Thats terrible! prayers sent to that town!!!
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