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Unread 05-01-2009, 08:42 PM   #1
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Need advice on Windrock/Black Mountain trails

Need some advice from you guys on trail selection for Windrock/Black Mountain-Harlan county Ky.. A few of us from IndyORV out of Indiana will be coming down May 23 to Windrock for 2 days And wheeling Saturday evening and Sunday....Then will make the trek up to Harlan county-Black Mountain on Monday for 5 days to finish out the rest of the week there till Friday. We are looking for advice on what trails to run while we are there. All the rigs coming down are jeeps on 35's and locked, with winches. We are all well built but, not quite extreme (no dana 60's).
We are looking to run moderate to advanced trails with some extreme stuff for the end of the week at Harlan county. Any advice from experienced wheelers at Windrock and Harlan county Ky-Black Mountain would be appreciated so we can get somewat of a schedule set up. Thx.

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Unread 05-01-2009, 09:15 PM   #2
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black mountain? like up near jamestown tn? if so, i didnt know there were trails there. use to take girls up there late at night to see the view... trails would be cool to though.
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Unread 05-01-2009, 11:43 PM   #3
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black mountain? like up near jamestown tn? if so, i didnt know there were trails there. use to take girls up there late at night to see the view... trails would be cool to though.
Black moutain in Harlan county KY
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Unread 05-01-2009, 11:56 PM   #4
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at windrock 3 is always fun with a good hill climb at the start and some crazy optional obstacles at the end.
15 is my favorite (little mule and little rattle rock as well as a big hole). 16 is pretty simple, but the creek beds are awesome crawls and totally make it worth it.

don't even attempt rail trail or rattle rock.

Hopefully by then we will get around to cutting the new rock garden which would be perfect for guys your size and up. However, I'll be out of town and the rest of the club is busy with trailfest and other rides, so maybe not.
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Unread 05-02-2009, 09:01 AM   #5
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at windrock 3 is always fun with a good hill climb at the start and some crazy optional obstacles at the end.
15 is my favorite (little mule and little rattle rock as well as a big hole). 16 is pretty simple, but the creek beds are awesome crawls and totally make it worth it.

don't even attempt rail trail or rattle rock.

Hopefully by then we will get around to cutting the new rock garden which would be perfect for guys your size and up. However, I'll be out of town and the rest of the club is busy with trailfest and other rides, so maybe not.
Ya...we've seen video of rail trail and rattle rock...wat trail numbers are they so we know wat to avoid? Thx a ton for the suggestions....I had seen that creek trail in pics but didn't know wat number it was.

Also, we need enough trail suggestions to fill out 2 entire days at Wondrock...and, almost a full week in Harlan, with a lil nite wheeling at each thrown in..
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Unread 05-02-2009, 08:34 PM   #6
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Just so you know. Windrock does charge per person.
$17.00 Daily
$33.00 2 days
$44.00 3 days
$55.00 4 days
$88.00 yearly
Double this if there are 2 people in the Jeep whether they are driving or not. This does include kids.
Atomic Ridge is pretty cool. Winches are mandatory.
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Unread 05-02-2009, 08:53 PM   #7
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Just so you know. Windrock does charge per person.
$17.00 Daily
$33.00 2 days
$44.00 3 days
$55.00 4 days
$88.00 yearly
Double this if there are 2 people in the Jeep whether they are driving or not. This does include kids.
Atomic Ridge is pretty cool. Winches are mandatory.
Yup...already know about the fees ...Thx.
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Unread 05-02-2009, 11:57 PM   #8
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i know rattle rock is on 15...but its totally optional, you can bypass it very easily.
I have no clue what trail number rail trail is...just that it merges into 3 near the exit.
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Unread 05-03-2009, 11:57 AM   #9
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Good to see there are bypasses available on some of these trails...Thx
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Unread 05-03-2009, 07:28 PM   #10
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If you dig rocks, hit up the Upper and Lower Rock Gardens in Harlan. Great stuff, some super technical spots.
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Unread 05-04-2009, 03:54 AM   #11
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If you dig rocks, hit up the Upper and Lower Rock Gardens in Harlan. Great stuff, some super technical spots.
sounds good....can you do me a favor and elaborate some more on Harlan trails Brad. We got some good info on windrock but, since we are spending the majority of our time in Harlan, we need more info on Harlan. Haven't gotten alot of info as of yet...so any info at this point would be appreciated. Thx.
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Unread 05-09-2009, 10:42 AM   #12
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for harlan the middle rock garden is good also. You can also do mason jar its a fun trail. stay away from damnation its to much for 35s. Your best bet is to pick up a map down there and just hit the trails sence you are there for 5 days. Happy trail riding
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Unread 05-11-2009, 10:16 AM   #13
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Forgot to tell you make sure you get the right map, They have two. One for quads and one for Jeeps. They are different so make sure you get the right one.
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Unread 05-11-2009, 11:28 AM   #14
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Get your maps and passes at Buddies Chevron, which is right on the way to the park. They will have the right map for you. Its hard to say what is hard and what is not. The rock gardens are fun and there are some technical spots on them. The upper rock garden and can opener are more difficult, I would advise heading up there and checkin it out first. I think you guys would be fine on lower damnation, but its all up to you. Stay away from tailgate, unless you have arounbd 110" WB and big tires/axles you wont have fun or be able to do it.

Another trail that is fun and would be great for 35s and f&r lockers would be lions den. Very technical and such but you guys could do it.

You best bet would be to get down there, grab a map and start talking to some locals. They will give you the best directions and tips to all of these trails plus more. You guys will be fine as long as you know your limits. Have fun and be safe!
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