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Unread 05-24-2009, 10:39 PM   #1
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Rausch Creek first timers

I'm trying to convince some friends to head up as a group to Rausch Creek at least once this summer. I've got a few questions for those of you who have been there before.

1. Our rigs vary quite a bit - I'm locked on 33s with an 8.8 and 4.56 gears, but some people in our group will be open with a Dana 35, 31-33" ATs and 3.07s, etc. Are there trails where we can have fun but not worry too much about rig limitations?

2. Along the same lines, how about breakage? Nobody has a tow vehicle so we'd absolutely have to be able to drive home in our jeeps. We would also prefer to avoid body damage at all costs, some of these vehicles are daily drivers.

3. Since nobody has been there, we would probably need a trail guide of some sort. I'm guessing somebody on this forum would be happy to show some people around?

One more thing, just FYI, none of us have ever been to a "formal" off road park before (in Jeeps anyway, maybe ATVs) so is there a briefing at the beginning of the day, or is everyone expected to know all the rules or whatever?

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Unread 05-24-2009, 10:46 PM   #2
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Green, maybe some light blue.

My stock rig on BFG MT's made the green stuff fine.
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Unread 05-24-2009, 11:08 PM   #3
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yeah blues and greens. most of the blues are easy enough to do stock with a good driver or spotter. ive done greens and blues stock.
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Unread 05-24-2009, 11:22 PM   #4
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I agree the greens and blues and a good spotter makes all the difference. I have had mine on a couple of black trails with a great spotter and mine is my DD. Just be smart pick your lines and be easy on the skinney pedal and have fun.
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Unread 05-25-2009, 04:22 AM   #5
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stick to greens and blues

as far as briefing, the only required thing in the morning is to sign in and pay in the office, you must go into the park with AT least 2 vehicles in your group.

they offer maps, and a rule sheet when you sign in.

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Unread 05-25-2009, 04:40 AM   #6
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you'll be fine with that list on all the greens and blues. As far as a guide, even if you can't find anyone to go the park is extremely easy to navigate with the map. They did a great job putting together an accurate map. Most importantly though just go and have a good time.
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Unread 05-26-2009, 07:33 AM   #7
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Check out their website it has some of the info you are looking for. They do have a small garage with tools, welder and some spare parts available for a donation to the park. You will not need a trail guide. There isnt any breifing in the morning, just a paper with rules. Bring a spare tire for each jeep just incase. Maybe a spare shaft or two for your buddies running d 35's.
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Unread 05-26-2009, 11:18 AM   #8
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If you are locked on 33's with basic armor you will do all the blues and probably most if not all of the blacks. A lot of the blacks are rated a little high in my opinion. You're buddies might have some trouble on the blacks being open but there are more than enough blue trails to keep you guys busy. Don't be afraid to try the comp course. There's a lot of lines there for smaller rigs and it's convenient to camp too.
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Unread 05-26-2009, 09:09 PM   #9
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If you are locked on 33's with basic armor you will do all the blues and probably most if not all of the blacks. A lot of the blacks are rated a little high in my opinion. You're buddies might have some trouble on the blacks being open but there are more than enough blue trails to keep you guys busy. Don't be afraid to try the comp course. There's a lot of lines there for smaller rigs and it's convenient to camp too.
What kind of armor would you recommend (or consider "basic")? I have rocker guards with tube steps right now, and I'm getting front and rear diff covers soon. I have a new (but stock replacement) gas tank skid.

Oh and how often do you guys see D35 failures on the trails? I know they suck and everything but I'd be interested in first-hand breakage, in your rig or one in your group.

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What kind of armor would you recommend (or consider "basic")? I have rocker guards with tube steps right now, and I'm getting front and rear diff covers soon. I have a new (but stock replacement) gas tank skid.

Oh and how often do you guys see D35 failures on the trails? I know they suck and everything but I'd be interested in first-hand breakage, in your rig or one in your group.
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rocker gaurds, diff covers front and back, a heavy duty tie rod, skid row engine skid. at min.
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Unread 05-27-2009, 06:12 AM   #11
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What kind of armor would you recommend (or consider "basic")? I have rocker guards with tube steps right now, and I'm getting front and rear diff covers soon. I have a new (but stock replacement) gas tank skid.

Oh and how often do you guys see D35 failures on the trails? I know they suck and everything but I'd be interested in first-hand breakage, in your rig or one in your group.
As long as you stick to green and blues your group should be fine, the park maps are easy to follow and the trails are pretty well marked where you should be able to get yourself around without a guide. If you really feel you want someone to lead that is familiar with the park post up on the RC Forum when you want to go and you can usually hook up with someone that has run there before.

I run Greens, Blues and Blacks in my JK with 33's, rock sliders and factory skids and diff covers. I bang and scrape quite a bit on blacks, once in a while on blues and rarely on greens. I have dented my oil pan so for now I am staying off the harder blacks until I get an engine/tranny skid and upgraded diff covers.

Last time out our group cut two tires down on the rocks, one of them while going through a puddle on one of the main green access trails, so make sure you all have full size spares. We also had one Jeep break a Dana 30, the tire started spinning then suddenly caught breaking the ears off the the outer shaft and a tooth off one of the spider gears, I've seen the same thing happen one 35. It is pretty easy to slip a tire, so just go easy on the gas while crawling through the rocks.
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What kind of armor would you recommend (or consider "basic")? I have rocker guards with tube steps right now, and I'm getting front and rear diff covers soon. I have a new (but stock replacement) gas tank skid.
That should be fine. Maybe a heavy duty tie rod like the other guy said, but you can run the stock one too.
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Unread 05-27-2009, 11:24 AM   #13
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We had a nearly stock YJ through a few short sections of black trails this past (Memorial) weekend. Most of the really hard stuff usually has a bypass. With that said, one guy in our group broke two D30 axle shafts and two ball joints, mostly going _down_ the steep rock ledges on Snakebite. I've been across Rock Creek in my rig a few times with minimal body damage.

One of the Rausch Creek staff trail guides was spotting a stock JK (X, not even a Rubi) in another group through some pretty nasty black trails. A good spotter is a HUUUUGE deal.
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We had a nearly stock YJ through a few short sections of black trails this past (Memorial) weekend. Most of the really hard stuff usually has a bypass. With that said, one guy in our group broke two D30 axle shafts and two ball joints, mostly going _down_ the steep rock ledges on Snakebite. I've been across Rock Creek in my rig a few times with minimal body damage.

One of the Rausch Creek staff trail guides was spotting a stock JK (X, not even a Rubi) in another group through some pretty nasty black trails. A good spotter is a HUUUUGE deal.
I just remembered that my avatar (eyes left) is my rig on Rock Creek at the very instant my old Warn side steps got pushed in.
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1. Our rigs vary quite a bit...
2. Along the same lines, how about breakage?
3. Since nobody has been there, we would probably need a trail guide of some sort.?
[4] One more thing, just FYI, none of us have ever been to a "formal" off road park before (in Jeeps anyway, maybe ATVs) so is there a briefing at the beginning of the day, or is everyone expected to know all the rules or whatever?
1: Some places there (like 'CV') have easy next to hard, so easy guys can get out and watch the hard guys work it.
2: Breakage is you, not them. Do your pre-maint and don't drive like an idiot (e.g. heavy right foot) and you should be fine.
3: The place is really well marked, no need for a guide.
4: No real meeting, it's assumed you know a bit about off-roading. They have handout sheet of park rules, which are also on-line. Just stay with your group and you will be fine.
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