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Unread 08-26-2009, 01:40 PM   #1
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MASSACHUSETTS trailing...

Where the hell can I go? I'm sick of Freetown State Forest.

Mainly looking for day trips. Willing to drive a few hours.

Thanks guys!

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Unread 08-26-2009, 03:49 PM   #2
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October Mt State Forest and Savoy have some old roads that make for a nice day out.
They are western MA. Find them on a map, then go to the MA DCR GOV site, find the map for those forests. If you head out, make sure that you stay only on the ROADS. Trails are NOT for full sized 4x4 use.
Other than that, best bet is to join a club.
Western MA 4x4 is a good choice... they have a group here on JeepForums and their own site as well. Check the Mass meet and greet thread.. most of them check that thread regularly.
Clubs have access to private lands which makes New England wheeling much more interesting.

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Unread 08-26-2009, 04:40 PM   #3
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now when you say old roads are they even muddy rocky or anything at all. Because the environmental police here are *******s and they dont let you go anywhere!!! so if your speaking of the access roads that they expect people to travel with there cars then i dont think those are going to be anything special. But if they are please enlighten me! and whats the deal with freetown??
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Unread 08-27-2009, 05:46 PM   #4
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now when you say old roads are they even muddy rocky or anything at all. Because the environmental police here are *******s and they dont let you go anywhere!!! so if your speaking of the access roads that they expect people to travel with there cars then i dont think those are going to be anything special. But if they are please enlighten me! and whats the deal with freetown??
There are a couple that one would actually need 4WD for.
Make sure you have the map with you and you know where you are.. as you state, they can be real pricks and if you don't know, they may use it against you and ticket you, even though you may actually be in a legal location.

Last I knew of Freetown, it was the same as any other state forest.. Only the ROADS are open for our use and only then during certain times of the year. Check the maps. Stay on the roads and you should be OK.

Stray away from any of the above and you could quite possibly be looking at a simple trespass or misuse of a trail ticket and those run up about $100.

Thats two years worth of club dues..
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Unread 08-27-2009, 07:35 PM   #5
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you know i wrote a letter to the state a very well written one i might add asking them why the hate offroading so much. And why they dont make a permit or registration that would allow you to go offroad in designated areas for a fee determined by the state. They would make tons of money and it would be good for everyone, guess thats why they wont do it. O ya and they never even replied to my letter.
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Unread 08-28-2009, 04:32 AM   #6
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you know i wrote a letter to the state a very well written one i might add asking them why the hate offroading so much. And why they dont make a permit or registration that would allow you to go offroad in designated areas for a fee determined by the state. They would make tons of money and it would be good for everyone, guess thats why they wont do it. O ya and they never even replied to my letter.
You are starting to see/feel the frustration that eventually drove me away from such heavy involvement in the sport.
The people that run the Dept of Conservation and Recreation, don't really care about the recreation part as much as the conservation part, unless of course its completely passive that they feel has less of an impact (its a fallacy but I won't get into those numbers) than motorized/mechanized recreation.
Another part in the puzzle is the fact that the green extremist groups have LOTS of passionate people on their side, probably as many as we do... BUT.. they ALL take time to either donate lots of cash or the time to write LOTS of letters. Not only do we as a community spend our money on our trucks instead of sending into national and regional groups to protect our rights but we are also rather apathetic (of course, you see, you fit into the minority by actually taking the time to write). In order to have the same effect thatthe green groups do, we would need to have about 100 letters flooding the entire New England region's, state offices, every month. Thats 100 letters to the MA officials, 100 to CT, 100 to VT, etc.
The last thing that kills us is ourselves.. Those blockheads who feel that they can wheel wherever they want. Who don't care that they're wheeling illegally.
The states look at that and say.. "well, obviously, you (as a wheeling community) can't even police yourselves, how can we trust that you will if we "gave" you places to do it."
This has been stated directly to my face, at meetings throughout New England, over the last 25 years.

Thank you however, for taking the time to write... Its something most don't even consider.

Enjoy the public stuff while you can. It will not be long before its gone.

Talk soon,
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Unread 08-28-2009, 06:04 AM   #7
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October Mt State Forest and Savoy have some old roads that make for a nice day out.
They are western MA. Find them on a map, then go to the MA DCR GOV site, find the map for those forests. If you head out, make sure that you stay only on the ROADS. Trails are NOT for full sized 4x4 use.
Other than that, best bet is to join a club.
Western MA 4x4 is a good choice... they have a group here on JeepForums and their own site as well. Check the Mass meet and greet thread.. most of them check that thread regularly.
Clubs have access to private lands which makes New England wheeling much more interesting.

Talk soon,
Hi Dave

OP, like ToxicTurtle said your best bet is to hook up with a club. If you're interested the link is in my sig...
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